40k Rules Questions & Discussion

Imperial Armour 1 & 2 updates

Fenix — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:33:10 GMT

Not sure if these have been posted but Forge World released 5th edition updates for Imperial Armour 1 and 2.

Armour 1 link
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/pdf/IA1update28AUG.pdf

Armour 2 link
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/pdf/IA2Update28Aug.pdf

New Tyranid Codex

Ronniem11 — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:31:14 GMT

Can't wait for the new tyranid codex!

Any sneak previews or rumors to be told out there?

Not much on other forums.

New to Warhammer40k, Tau Codex Question - Gue'vessa

ShasOElanRo — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:25:12 GMT

I read in the fluff that the Tau sometimes employ space marine deserters in their ranks and call them gue'vessa. However, nowhere in the codex does it mention rules for these. The Kroot and Vespid have their rules laid out, why not the gue'vessa?

Combat squads in transports

dynamicspartan — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:07:04 GMT

Can you have two combat squads in the same tranport at the same time? Than have both dismount and remount the vehicle?

Imperial Guard Medusa?

Warmonger — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:18:43 GMT

If a Medusa buys bastion breacher shells does that allow him to choose which ammo to use each turn (between bastion breacher and reg. ammo) or does that commit it to using only the BB for the whole game? I'm just curious, don't have one but was just wondering

Ravenwing List Help

wittdooley — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:43:27 GMT

So, here's a Ravenwing List I threw together. I don't need/want it to be a world beater, but I'd like it to be fluffy and at least a little competetive: HQ: Sammael (205) HQ: Interrogator Chaplain on Bike (150) FA: Ravenwing Retinue (175) w/ PW w/ Apothecary w/ Company Banner T: Ravenwing Attack Squadron (205) 3 Bikes w/ attack bike melta; PF; Meltagun T: Ravenwing Attack Squadron (205) 3 Bikes w/ attack bike melta; PF; meltagun T: ...

New I.G. faq

HAND OF DUME — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:12:56 GMT

The new Imperial Guard faq from GW is out. Here's the link:
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m470041a_FAQ_ImperialGuard_2009.pdf

Spearhead: You're doing it wrong lolololololol

Mike Leon — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:23:22 GMT

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/254609.page For anyone who plays 40k, you need to look at this thread on dakka. To sum it up (in case you're lazy) someone pointed out a few days ago that the rules for spearhead deployment say that the first player to set up must deploy 12" away from the middle. Then it says the second player to set up must deploy in the opposite table quarter. So the RAW would have it that the second player can put his whole army smack in the ...

Stay in the drop pod

Mike Leon — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:20:28 GMT

I can't find a rule anywhere that says units must leave a drop pod when it hits the field.

So can my units stay in their drop pod for the whole game?

Edit: I did find the rule that says that - and it's only in the vanilla marines codex.

Moving all out, scouts, obscured?

archite666 — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:14:17 GMT

Yeah so if I move all out in my scout move do I get to be obscured? I knowi it says last movement phase but I was wondering if they FAQed that or not.

Crazy wound allocation rules....

archite666 — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:46:39 GMT

Ok so my chimera and vets inside them count as one unit so they fire at the remains of a space marine squad... I score 3 wounds from the multilaser (chimera) and 3 plasma guns wounds (from the vets inside) My opponent has 2 guys left, a normal marine and his captain or whatever... He says since theres an even number of wounds, he allocates the 3 plasma to the normal guy, and the 3 multilaser (savable) wounds to his captain... That is not how I read the rules but after trying to ...

Hmmmmmmm Which Marine Chapter to choose?

CaptainHonkey — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:49:41 GMT

Ok after a while of checking out and reading the different marine chapters ive finally narrowed it down to 3. Crimson Fists, Salamanders, or Raven Guard. The things i really like about each one is: Crimson Fists: That they use a lot of Scouts, Vanguard Veterans. And with the Chapter master Vanguard count as scoring units. Salamanders: Lots of flamers and meltas that are twin linked and thunder hammers are master crafted. The only problem is that theres already 2 Salamanders players ...

fleet vs run

Ronniem11 — Sun, 10 May 2009 04:19:38 GMT

I have a question and can't seem to find the answer in the rule book.

With the new run rule if a unit has fleet can you fleet and run or just do one or the other because if it is one or the other it seems having fleet means nothing for melee units?

Base Sizes

wittdooley — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:25:36 GMT

I'm really excited about getting my Vulkan He'stan model in July, but I had a question:

I want to put him on a 40mm base instead of the supplied 25mm base. I'm fairly certain this is allowed, but are there any real drawbacks to putting him on the larger base, other than the fact that more enemies can touch him? He looks like a very full model and I just don't think the 25mm is going to let me do what I want.

Thoughts...Opinions?

Ard boyz rule faq

Sexiest_hero — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:56:02 GMT

These rules can be found on the GW web page. Some IG highlights. From the PDF: Forces of the Inquisition � Codex Daemonhunters � Codex Witchhunters � Inquisitorial armies may take Imperial Guard and Space Marine allies, chosen from the latest versions of their codices. As both of these codices have changed recently, use the following amendments to the list on pg 30-31 of the Daemon Hunters book and page 26 of the Witch Hunters book: Troops Space Marine Tactical ...

Valkyrie base debate- check it out

HAND OF DUME — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:50:21 GMT

There seems to be a new debate pertaining to the new I.G. Valkyrie base and embarking/disembarking and capturing/controlling objectives. Check it out here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/241595.page

Embarking/Disembarking from the Valkyrie

Angry Bob — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:23:23 GMT

Overview: Going to break this down as the rules are printed. If someone disagrees then please post page or gw rules errata that states otherwise. Posting this seperate because in a previous post I didn't cite or lay everything out as clearly. Legal Protections: I am not going to post text word-for-word from the 40K rule book. Any of that information can get the GW legal team to have the ISP to delete the thread or even this forum. Layout and Dissagreement: Going to post the page numbers ...

More of what's allowed in the area

Ricter — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:52:12 GMT

Quick background - I used to play 40k in 3rd, and now I'm getting back into it. I haven't played in this area though. Is Imperial Armor allowed in the area? Particularly the updates? I'm thinking of adding a Sisters of Battle squad to my Space Marines force. According to their dex, rhinos run 50, but IA updated their cost to only 35 + free smoke. Speaking of, are there going to be any issues with using SoB allies? And how do tournaments affect these? Are SoB allies typically ...

Rerolling a reroll (astropath and officer of the fleet)

archite666 — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:57:37 GMT

I can't seem to find the rule in the book but is it possible to get two rerolls? I thought I read it was't but Id figure Id check first. Essentially i'm talking about if I had two astropaths or OotF *EDIT* I just realised I need to edit this so I don't sound retarded... I found the wording on pg 2 but i'm more or less looking for clarification. I know it says it in black and white but I didn't know if it applied to this... I could just just be really tired since it basicly ...

Daemonhunter/Witch Hunter Adversaries

Mike Leon — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 22:02:29 GMT

The witch hunter codex says that on page 40 that if you are playing a game against witch hunters you can give one of your HQs a psychic power from the box on that page for free.

Does this constitute changing your army list? Or can you just take it at the beginning of a game?

shooting question....

altahara — Tue, 26 May 2009 17:18:51 GMT

ok.. so heres the situation.. a squad of guys.. one plasma gun one lascannon lots of bolters and a vet with combi plasma.. they decide to shoot at a tank.. can you: 1.) shoot the lascannon see the result, shoot the plasma gun see the result, then shoot the combi plasma... that way you dont waste it if the las or plasma kills the tank.. since you pick the squad shooting, pick the unit.. then roll for the weapons individually.. or 2.) do you have to declare that the combi ...

Regarding special models in close combat...

archite666 — Thu, 21 May 2009 20:16:29 GMT

Ok so I know I'm gonna sound like a total noob but I haven't looked at 5th edition assault rules since I left Ohio.

So for my guard army, I can have a 10 man squad with a power fist and I still pick to allocate the wounds around him right? Essentially hiding him within the bulk of the squad?

I ask this because someone said they thought that had changed.

CAG FAQ Mark II

makari — Mon, 11 May 2009 03:36:40 GMT

Tournament is this Saturday let me know what Questions need to be asked to be added to our FAQ that is not in The GW or INAT FAQ or need to be "adjusted".

For instance the Ork Battlewagon with the Deff Rolla will be able to ram vehicles and use its ability. in contradiction to the INAT FAQ.

just a couple questions!

Ronniem11 — Tue, 12 May 2009 16:44:26 GMT

Quick question still learning, If you have models locked in combat can you assault with another set of models the next assault faze to help out or no?

Also if one of the models in a troop have a lower save than the others do you have to designate what wounds hit him or does he lose his 2+ or whatever save until he is the last one standing?

Instant Death and Eternal Warrior

jpohagan — Sat, 09 May 2009 22:38:17 GMT

OK< so my friend is proposing an interesting argument. Of course, it might no really be that interesting since we're both (relatively) new players, and don't understand some of the intricacies, but that's neither her or there. He's taking a literal interpretation of the Instant Death rule, which only specifies models and weapons where the Strength is double the Toughness of a multiple wound model, and that certain weapons, like the Eldar diresword, can surpass Eternal Warrior (or, in ...

An Odd Question, revisited

guynamedFleck — Mon, 04 May 2009 04:56:10 GMT

Sorry for reopening this (as it obviously raised some sour conversations), but I felt as a non associated party this is an honest rules mistake. I would like to clear up the issue. Quote: My Raider moves on the board sideways, sicne it can move up and pivot on the spot 24" as is its move... then it turns on the spot, moves forweard 6", or 12" but i chose 6 in this example. then fires everything or disgorges everyone to charge.. A few rules come into play here. 'Arriving ...

count as, the IG, and tournaments

FrostWolf — Fri, 08 May 2009 19:10:04 GMT

ok was wondering if a conversion idea I had was even workable for a tournament legal army so here it is bscialy some units instead of lasguns they would have stuff like ork shootas or the tau guns(would still of course count of lasguns and such) the reason why I want to do this is my army this for the IG is going to be a unit of gaurd that the supply people(not gonna spell it right so Im not even gonna try) have competly forgoteen all their equipment has been salvaged from battles, ...

Grey Knight Land Raider Crusader

JTPitt — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:22:47 GMT

So I was going back through the FAQ just to refresh myself on all the rules and now all Grey Knight Land Raider's and Crusaders have the machine spirit which allows it to shoot one more gun than would be allowed. After rereading that and going back to the Codex I noticed that the Crusader states that the hurricane pattern bolter can always shoot no matter the circumstances. So my question is with the machine spirit on a crusader you get one more gun then would be allowed does that allow ...

Inquisitor Retinue and ICs

bojesphob1 — Wed, 06 May 2009 14:44:59 GMT

Ok, weird question..... Not sure exactly if I'm thinking of this correctly, but here goes: If I had an Inquisitor and Retinue (which, as a group, counts as a "unit"), could I join a Primaris Psycher to the unit (since he can join units)? If so, and I have an Astropath in the retinue, could said Primaris use his Lightning Arc (shooting attack) when a unit attempts to deep strike in for the other army (for the free shot on said unit that Astropaths entail)? I'm not sure if I'm making ...

Ork Painboy and Independent Characters

jpohagan — Sat, 02 May 2009 01:21:41 GMT

OK, I have a situation that needs clearing up.
In the rulebook under independent characters, it says that if an independent character joins a squad, he doesn't confer any special rules he has on them, and they don't confer any special rules on him. However, I've seen several people mention (from what I understand) that an Ork Warboss (an independent character) can join a unit with a Painboy and thus get Feel No Pain. What's correct in this situation?

vehicle moving then immobilised.. assaulting

altahara — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:56:24 GMT

OK, since its running rampant in the other forums i thought id bring it ehre...

SCENARIO
a vehicle moves 12".. then the enemys turn it gets shot.. get immobiles and the enemy assaults it.. what does the enemy need to hit this vehicle?

since its immobile is it auto hit? or since it moved is it 6+??

cases can be made for both.. what do you think?

eplain your answer

Regarding heavy weapon teams and "count as" rule

archite666 — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:52:44 GMT

So Iv always been a bit confused by this even playing guard for several years Iv never seen a actual rule on this. Heavy weapon teams come with a large base, however in some blisters they come on a single base, now when i'm making a heavy weapon squad I like them, however when im adding a heavy weapon team to a infantry squad I really dont like the look of having 2 men on a large base with the other 8 on normal bases. I was curious if anyone knows the exact reference for this. Secondly I ...

Chaos Baneblade

altahara — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:07:02 GMT

Ok, maybe im kinda... well maybe im just missing something...

Where can i find the Chaos Space Marine Baneblade rules??

Would it also have a bs of 3? Like the Imperium one?

Allied IG

JTPitt — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:36:41 GMT

If you take the IG as allies with the DH's codex can you give the IG guards doctrines. I could not find a reason that you can't.

What I was thinking of doing was adding a platoon with a Junior Officer and giving them the special equipment doctrine and giving them the cameleoline so I can stick them in cover to shoot and give them a 3+ cover save from normal shooting attacks.

Any assistance with this would be great. Thank you.

Bile Enhancements

Sexiest_hero — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:21:34 GMT

Can Bile be used to enchance chosen? It says, All units of chaos space marine units. and chosen, havocs, and bikers are listed under the chaos space marine section.

Necron We'll be back rule

John Gemrich — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:15:37 GMT

Quick question. You are allowed to make We'll be back rolls as long as a unit of the same type is on the board. I've bee reading and something in the International FAQ made me think that type means.... Infantry, Jet Bike, Monsterous creature...etc. Not Pariahs and Pariahs So for A heavy destroyer that takes and unsaved wound... they could still make a We'll be back roll if there is a unit of the same type, (say regular destroyers) within 6 inches or a just on the table and a ...

Imperial guard chimera question

Diln — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:43:50 GMT

hi, i'm new got this link from some guys at the Bookery Tournament on Jan. 25 anyway so, in the Imperial Guard codex, when you purchase a Chimera as a transport for a squad, does the 70 points for having them mounted on a chimera the same as the cost of the chimera, or are they both added together for example: when you have an armored fist squad, they are mounted onto a chimera for 70 points but when you purchase the chimera, it is 70+weapons so is the total cost Armored ...

Tau marker drones

altahara — Thu, 29 May 2008 14:55:19 GMT

i have been wondering this for a little while... lets say a crisis team,or a stealth team (since the model comes with this unit) takes a marker drone... since they move, can it also move and fire? since the network markerlight is heavy??

Did anyone notice??

altahara — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:23:23 GMT

did anyone notice space marine faq is out... seems kinda limited to me...

Trukk explodes Cover save...

makari — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:44:59 GMT

So... good question here because common sense says no maybe, but RAW says yes...

Ok ork trukk within 6" of a Kustom Force Field, Hit by a shot and Penetrated and wrecked, rolled on Kaboom table and it explodes within 6" of the Kustom Force field. Do the Orks in the trukk get a 5+ cover save when it explodes?

Think before responding cause it'll make ya go huh! so what is everyone's opinion?

New FAQ is out!

makari — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:43:49 GMT

The New FAQ is out that most Tourney's use for their FAQ.

We will be using that FAQ and if any questions are not covered by the GW or INAt FAQ v2.1 then I will add ours.

The link is here!

Deff Rollas and Ramming :-(

makari — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:02:11 GMT

Well it's official they killed the Ork spirit , but thats the way it is sometimes.

And no i don't want a long rambling like they have had on Dakka Dakka.

and Btw the INT FAQ 2.1 comes out today!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/150/227443.page

Fast vehicles, transports and shooting

Mike Leon — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:07:29 GMT

On page 66 of the rulebook, under Fire Points, it says that passengers cannot fire out of a transport at all if it moves at cruising speed. altahara says a Dark Eldar raider can move 12" and then the passengers can all shoot out of it. His reasoning is that fast vehicles count 12" movement as combat speed. I say no. Page 70 of the rulebook (the rules for fast vehicles) says no such thing. In fact, it lists seperate conditions for fast vehicles moving at combat, ...

You can't roll 2 dice instead of rolling 1 and rerolling

Mike Leon — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:53:18 GMT

A lot of people will roll 2 dice for a twin-linked shot instead of rolling 1 then rerolling if they miss. I say that is illegal. I started a thread about this on Dakka and it's in discussion, so the verdict isn't out yet. Peep dis anyway: I think this illustrates that the problem is still apparent even when you fire only 1 weapon. Rolling 2 dice at the same time for 1 shot: D1 | D2 miss hit hit miss miss miss <------ This is the only possibility of failure ...

Transports

Chad — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 05:16:09 GMT

Had this come up today.

Turn 2...Wave Serpent loaded with banshees, dropped them in the movement phase, drove Wave Serpent 12", moved a squad of Harlies with in 2" of transport and loaded them to be dropped off in 3rd turn.

All happened in the same movement phase and couldn't find any rule against it. Just seeing what ppl thought.

Vypers or Vyper Jetbikes

blurb777 — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:29:37 GMT

I have heard that Eldar Vypers are able to move an extra 6" in the assult phase

in the rulebook(page 53) that Eldar Jetbikes are able to do this.

on the Games Workshop website/product list it lists them as Vyper Jetbikes.

I have no other information and would like your input.

Feel No Pain

Chad — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:20:26 GMT

OK looked on a couple boards and didn't find anything so will start my own controversial thread here. If anyone has seen a ruling on this post me a link please, if not let the games begin. "Can you use FnP to save un-saved wounds from No Retreat!" No Retreat! (pg.44) ...These units do not take Moral checks and will never fall back. Instead, these units suffer a number of wounds equal to the number their side has lost the combat by (allocated as normal). All types of saving ...

Gate of Infinity Clarification

makari — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:34:12 GMT

Big discusion on Dakka Dakka Basically can a librarian teleport himself or himself with a unit out of close combat? I hadn't given much thought about doing that but then after reading I think you can. And of course using the locator beacon not the teleport homer to make it so that no one disappears because their is not scatter. So a 2 part question...

Not the Final...

Chad — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 06:44:42 GMT

I found this not sure if it was posted but also not the final version....

International 40K Rule FAQ V 2.0