Consolidating Units with 5th

Initiate Age : 23 Joined : 24 Sep 2007 Posts : 273

So from what I read when you win a combat now you CAN"T consolidate into a unit not already locked into combat. This means stuff like kroot and conscripts place infront of their respective gunline become much more important. Not to mention things like death company, harlequins, and others can just get to a gunline and blow through it by themselves.

How do you all see this effecting your army? I think scouts might find themselves in my army just to move up and take charges and get wiped out, spend 75 - 100 pts to make sure my gunline gets at least on turn to shoot your uber assault unit.

Overall I see this as the balance to the new run rule. You are going to loose about one turn of long range shooting to get a turn of double tapping, thats all good in my book. Smile

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Ultramarines
Win: 13 (Went 3-0 at 1st annual CAG tourny)
Lose: 2 (Orks got to bash in some marine heads)
Draw: 0

Necrons
Win: 3 (cornered some tau)
Lose: 1 (couldn't push death guard off an objective)
Draw: 0

Subject: Re: Consolidating Units with 5th Fri May 23, 2008 5:21 pm

Orks...
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Initiate Age : 23 Joined : 24 Sep 2007 Posts : 273

Dont worry buddy thats why you have 30 man units with T4 Smile

Not to mention you can have 6 if you really want too. I think Snikrot holding down dev squads or the equivalent will be your kep to success.
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Ultramarines
Win: 13 (Went 3-0 at 1st annual CAG tourny)
Lose: 2 (Orks got to bash in some marine heads)
Draw: 0

Necrons
Win: 3 (cornered some tau)
Lose: 1 (couldn't push death guard off an objective)
Draw: 0

Subject: Re: Consolidating Units with 5th Fri May 23, 2008 5:28 pm

Ok but still Sad

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40K Orks (15-6-2) Its a good day when Orks win but even better when its against Eldar

Warhammer Fantasy Orcs (1-1) Fanatics made the Ogres disappear!...

Subject: Re: Consolidating Units with 5th Fri May 23, 2008 6:11 pm

The Consolidation move may be used to contact
enemy models and engage them in combat, but
only if the enemy units are not already locked in
close combat. If the enemy is already locked in
combat, the consolidating unit cannot enter the
existing fight, confused by the swirling melee of
friends and foes.

I think it's just the opposite if I'm reading this right (sentence two). Harlies could still run a gunline as long as the unit they consolidated into wasn't already in combat.
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Initiate Age : 23 Joined : 24 Sep 2007 Posts : 273

Of course this is a debate about something I personally dont have yet. But the few people that seem to have gotten a copy of 5th edition have said otherwise. I just can't wait for my copy of 5th.
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Ultramarines
Win: 13 (Went 3-0 at 1st annual CAG tourny)
Lose: 2 (Orks got to bash in some marine heads)
Draw: 0

Necrons
Win: 3 (cornered some tau)
Lose: 1 (couldn't push death guard off an objective)
Draw: 0

Subject: Re: Consolidating Units with 5th Fri May 23, 2008 6:23 pm

I hear you! Nothings in stone 'til it's in front of your face. All I have is the 5th preview PDF.
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5th edition record- win 3, lost 1, draw 0