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Matt Supreme Forum Overlord

Joined : 20 Aug 2007 Posts : 3094 Location : Cincinnati, OH
| Subject: [RUMOR] More 5th Stuff Sun May 25, 2008 11:47 pm | |
| | Quote: | So we are getting close, and there are numerous reports of hardcover rulebook sightings at various spots over the globe. Here is what the birds are singing into our ears:
Firstly, the rule-set has hundreds of minor changes all over the place. It is a different game so we will all need to really take the time to re-read every sentence carefully as many, many subtle changes have been made all over the place. It isn't a case of the same game with just a handful of major changes.
Secondly, the leaked PDF must have been quite early as there are many, many changes from it.
Here is a set of some of the larger individual items we've been hearing:
BS of 6 and higher made it in. Wound allocation by model is in (meaning special models may be lost early) Torrent of Fire is gone Intervening models (friend or foe) grant a 4+ cover save to the target unit There is no longer any consolidating into new squads in assault (only charging can do this) Only engaged models may fight (like now), but casualties can be pulled from anywhere Powerfists only get the +1 attack if you have a pair (like lightingclaws) Monstrous creatures do fire 2 weapons per turn Vehicle LoS for sponsons and various weapons are now defined through a ton of charts Obscured and skimmers moving fast now grants a cover save vs damage (and it is a cover save so chew on that for the full implications) Assault Attacks versus vehicles with no WS are resolved against rear armor Vehicle Squadron rules are very different Vehicle Ramming is in (and skimmers get a dodge save to avoid it against non-skimmers) |
Links to pics of the book
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?community=&catId=&categoryId=600005&pIndex=1&aId=4900001&start=2
http://belloflostsouls.blogspot.com/2008/05/sneak-peak-5th-edition-bling.html _________________ Dark Angels 1750 win/loss Record Win - 22 (The Dark Angels wiped some silly pod marines) Loss - 13 (Brice's Necrons wiped me) Draw - 2 (The 13th hold out in alpha take and hold)
http://mcelv.blogspot.com/
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makari Tournament Guru

Age : 30 Joined : 10 Nov 2007 Posts : 887 Location : Milford, OH
| Subject: Re: [RUMOR] More 5th Stuff Mon May 26, 2008 12:24 am | |
| JOYGASM!!!  _________________ The footprints made in the sands of time are not made by sitting down... Unless your playing Warhammer WAAAGH!
40K Orks (15-6-2) Its a good day when Orks win but even better when its against Eldar
Warhammer Fantasy Orcs (1-1) Fanatics made the Ogres disappear!... |
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CJ Veteran Sergeant


Age : 33 Joined : 20 Aug 2007 Posts : 1378 Location : Cincinnati (Westwood)
| Subject: Re: [RUMOR] More 5th Stuff Mon May 26, 2008 1:10 am | |
| HOLY Crap!
I'm actually going to buy one! _________________ Disclaimer: Everything I say is meant to be used in a fun and joking manner. Can't deal with it? Grow a ball sack!
WARHAMMER 40K
Deamonhunters-W:0 L:0

FANTASY
OGRES-W:0 L:4 A strong begining for the fatties and the the wood elves showed up. Just shows that making fun of an elf and calling him queer doesn't mean they won't kick your ass....LOL
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noakei23 Neophyte

Joined : 19 May 2008 Posts : 129 Location : Milford
| Subject: Re: [RUMOR] More 5th Stuff Mon May 26, 2008 1:27 am | |
| Hey CJ...is "holt crap" a step above holy crap?  |
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CJ Veteran Sergeant


Age : 33 Joined : 20 Aug 2007 Posts : 1378 Location : Cincinnati (Westwood)
| Subject: Re: [RUMOR] More 5th Stuff Mon May 26, 2008 1:44 am | |
| what r you talking about?? _________________ Disclaimer: Everything I say is meant to be used in a fun and joking manner. Can't deal with it? Grow a ball sack!
WARHAMMER 40K
Deamonhunters-W:0 L:0

FANTASY
OGRES-W:0 L:4 A strong begining for the fatties and the the wood elves showed up. Just shows that making fun of an elf and calling him queer doesn't mean they won't kick your ass....LOL |
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Wayno Neophyte

Joined : 19 May 2008 Posts : 28 Location : Somerset, KY
| Subject: Re: [RUMOR] More 5th Stuff Mon May 26, 2008 2:40 am | |
| What? Skimmers with a cover save? HMM no wait, I mean HAHAHAHAHA!  _________________ "War is my master; Death my mistress." - Maugan Ra |
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Nathan Sergeant


Age : 16 Joined : 25 Aug 2007 Posts : 1034 Location : Mason, Ohio
| Subject: Re: [RUMOR] More 5th Stuff Mon May 26, 2008 3:22 pm | |
| Must...have...one...now! _________________ Insanity is only measured by those around you.
Don't try to understand my methods, just fear them.
I don't know what I play for but it sure as hell aint to win! |
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wittdooley Neophyte

Age : 25 Joined : 27 Mar 2008 Posts : 219 Location : Cincinnati / Western Hills
| Subject: Re: [RUMOR] More 5th Stuff Tue May 27, 2008 2:19 am | |
| Also, it seems that--according to White Dwarf--that the token and template sets will be available separately if you do not want to order the "gamers" edition.
Costs:
Tokens - $6 Templates - $15 |
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methoderik Neophyte

Joined : 14 May 2008 Posts : 45 Location : Loveland
| Subject: Re: [RUMOR] More 5th Stuff Tue May 27, 2008 6:13 pm | |
| Yay for laser sights....  |
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Matt Supreme Forum Overlord

Joined : 20 Aug 2007 Posts : 3094 Location : Cincinnati, OH
| Subject: Re: [RUMOR] More 5th Stuff Tue May 27, 2008 7:15 pm | |
| I'd rather buy one for a dollar from home depot  _________________ Dark Angels 1750 win/loss Record Win - 22 (The Dark Angels wiped some silly pod marines) Loss - 13 (Brice's Necrons wiped me) Draw - 2 (The 13th hold out in alpha take and hold)
http://mcelv.blogspot.com/ |
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methoderik Neophyte

Joined : 14 May 2008 Posts : 45 Location : Loveland
| Subject: Re: [RUMOR] More 5th Stuff Tue May 27, 2008 10:12 pm | |
| | Matt wrote: | I'd rather buy one for a dollar from home depot  |
I was more cracking on the loss of area terrain. I can hear the LOS/cover debates starting already.
That said, the rest of the rumors look interesting enough. I will be glad to have a cleaner assault phase. Looks like they are moving away from the more static shooty game, which I am grateful for. |
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Scav Initiate


Age : 19 Joined : 20 Sep 2007 Posts : 322 Location : Cleveland Born, DAAP enslaved
| Subject: Re: [RUMOR] More 5th Stuff Tue May 27, 2008 10:17 pm | |
| so could i possibly fortune a skimmer going fast?
hmmmmmmm 
oh and CJ.. you spelled holy right, no worries. _________________ Eldar Windwhisper Host
0/0! |
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noakei23 Neophyte

Joined : 19 May 2008 Posts : 129 Location : Milford
| Subject: Re: [RUMOR] More 5th Stuff Tue May 27, 2008 10:41 pm | |
| Yes, that edit button is wonderful btw I was just joking around with CJ and I think he knows that. |
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Angry Bob Sergeant

Joined : 06 Jan 2008 Posts : 620
| Subject: Re: [RUMOR] More 5th Stuff Wed May 28, 2008 1:00 am | |
| Liking many of the ideas. Should be interesting to see how they play out. But this.| Quote: | | Assault Attacks versus vehicles with no WS are resolved against rear armor | Ouch. A weird step backwards. |
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CJ Veteran Sergeant


Age : 33 Joined : 20 Aug 2007 Posts : 1378 Location : Cincinnati (Westwood)
| Subject: Re: [RUMOR] More 5th Stuff Wed May 28, 2008 2:29 am | |
| | noakei23 wrote: | Yes, that edit button is wonderful btw I was just joking around with CJ and I think he knows that. |
*wink* _________________ Disclaimer: Everything I say is meant to be used in a fun and joking manner. Can't deal with it? Grow a ball sack!
WARHAMMER 40K
Deamonhunters-W:0 L:0

FANTASY
OGRES-W:0 L:4 A strong begining for the fatties and the the wood elves showed up. Just shows that making fun of an elf and calling him queer doesn't mean they won't kick your ass....LOL |
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