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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:10 pm

Im my tens years of experience they have.

Statistics are the only thing you can rely on when creating a list... Of course luck will play into it, but statistics are the only constant you can rely on.

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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:17 pm

Yeah, people like to hate statistics because they observe the same scenario only a handful of times. Believe, if we rolled out dice for the fight 1000 times it would come up right about on those numbers. But luck takes over with one chance. For planning purposes stats are the only way to go. You can't rely on luck. Or if you happen to be magical, stop playing warhammer and start playing craps.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:52 pm

well true but i have recently had the luck of 4 out of 9 attacks on my death company rending for my attacks in close comabt for them and makeing half the other attacks
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:06 pm

Do not doubt Frostwolf's saying of screw statistics. In every game I played with him (EVERY GAME!) I can count on both hands the amount of times he has rolled statistically: 7. He has more luck in one game than most people have in 2 or 3 days. Don't know why, don't know how, but I have a theory that I ooze good luck and every other person is a recipient for it.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:23 pm

Luck is a product of the player's want/need to get a certain die roll. It doesn't exist in any tangible sense.

What you guys are saying is that you believe in magic, and that Bruce knows how to use said magic.

In other words, you are being kind of silly.

Sorry Bruce has rolled well against you Nathan.

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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:44 pm

Hey, if we, or in particular I, want to maintain some sense of childhood I let that be.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:56 pm

Yeah, it's not like I can tell you to believe in it or not...

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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:05 pm

One interesting thing that I have found about Warhammer is that it is more possible to seem lucky while rolling very statistically. For instance, sometimes it is good to roll low, like in leadership tests, most of the time, it is good to roll high, like when attacking. This allows all the dice to seem lucky depending on why you are rolling them while getting a good statistical spread.

However, if your opponent is rolling 6s 25% of the time over many hundreds of rolls, the dice are loaded.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:10 pm

Agreed. People perceive Dice rolls as lucky or unlucky depending on the situation also.

The more they are thinking negatively about a roll, the worse the situation will seem to them. Be it a roll of your own or a roll of your opponent.

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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:16 pm

if ur saying my dice are loaded than nathans have to be to(we both have the same type and color of dice) we have switched our dices tons of times when we have played aganist and on the same side as each other. but yea i tend to do well with morale checks to
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:28 pm

No, those dice aren't loaded, if they were I would have found a way to switch with him months ago. But it is true what you two say about it being mostly in your mind. Darn Psychology.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:33 pm

the mind is a powerful thing if u belive u can do something than u normal can
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:36 pm

Baaah Fegth on you. That is all hypno-psychosis mumbo jumbo.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:38 pm

but i didnt use any fancy terms or anything
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:39 pm

i have highjacked my own topic wow now that is just sad
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:41 pm

Still, your trying to use the psychosis stuff that I really do not enjoy going through. I am individual, therefore I resist. Razz
Man I am way too paranoid.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:46 pm

.......ur crazy u know that....still come on people more thoughts about my list
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:05 pm

well im now regestiered for the tourney
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:08 pm

so the good news is u all should get to see chrismas tree at the tourney... and see my horrible attempt at painting a great looking paint job that turned it a tree......(i am planning on repaiting it to match its nickname better and even add tree limbs later but then i still need to spray paint a base coat on abouyt half of my army)
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:18 pm

Congrats Frostwolf.

Need to play your list two more times, once against my tournie and once against my old tournie.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:20 pm

well saldy i do belive im working then so i cant make it be great to test it but i dought ill be able to
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:31 pm

Doh!
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 List   Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:40 pm

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