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PostSubject: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyWed May 14, 2008 4:48 pm

is sharp shooter(for IG) only useable one per battle per guy or once per turn?
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyWed May 14, 2008 5:22 pm

I think that the sharpshooter rule means that any rolled ones can be rerolled.... Doesn't matter how many you get... At least, that's me without my codex at work... does that sound right to everybody else?
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyWed May 14, 2008 5:29 pm

its says once somthing or another(dont have mine near me either)
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyWed May 14, 2008 6:55 pm

if the squad has sharpshooters, any rolls of 1 to hit may be re-rolled. Note this does not work with plasma weaponary because of get hot!
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyWed May 14, 2008 7:08 pm

Doesn't work with Sniper weapons either. Only BS3 figures, tragic really because BS4 vets or Stromtroopers with it would have been pretty sweet.

Personally I love it with Lascannons. Nothing like having a guardsman hitting on a %75 verses a Space Marine on %66.6
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyWed May 14, 2008 7:30 pm

ok thanks guys, Im thinking of building a ig army next and was wondering about throwing that in
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyThu May 15, 2008 1:26 am

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Personally I love it with Lascannons. Nothing like having a guardsman hitting on a %75 verses a Space Marine on %66.6
Err I left out a part on this. A good number of my misses on Lascannons were on a '1' and then a sucess on the re-roll. Sharpshooter does not actually improve a BS 3 above or even equal to BS 4. "Luck," was being factored in.

The actual statistical odds are the probability of success on the first roll plus the probabitly of rolling a '1' times the probability of success. Win = .5 + (0.16666 repeating X .5). Win = 0.58333 repeating or %58, better than the normal %50 and certainly not any better than the %67 BS4 gets.
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyThu May 15, 2008 1:31 am

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ok thanks guys, Im thinking of building a ig army next and was wondering about throwing that in
That is a rough road to travel. Playing the grunt army is cool and all but a competitive IG force is something different.

Not to mention the next edition might even make my favored force not so hot anymore. We can talk about some of this in person sometime, I generally don't like to throw too much intel online.
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyThu May 15, 2008 1:51 am

I'd wait a bit Bruce... IG are close to the top of the rumored release pile.

Plus the big rumor is plastic great coat guardsman!

Makes sense though, their codex is pretty poor. It needs a big hand.
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyThu May 15, 2008 2:36 pm

oh well its not like I was in a hurry to spend $250 some to finsh(well getthe rest I need) my IG army
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyThu May 15, 2008 2:41 pm

Well, I just got into the Guard myself, but THANKFULLY I've gotten most of my stuff in bulk from eBay or other gamers getting rid of their stuff, so other than the Baneblades and the hellhound and a few misc blisters I've got, I haven't gotten a lot of it anywhere near full price...

But, hopefully 5th edition doesn't screw them too much! They are already woefully underpowered overall, and if they screw the pooch with them some more, I may NEVER win a game with them!!

Oh, back on topic... I had forgotten about the "reroll once" thing... So, if you roll 7 "1"s, you can reroll them. But, if you get a one again, then you can't reroll...
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyFri May 16, 2008 12:28 pm

bojesphob1 wrote:
Oh, back on topic... I had forgotten about the "reroll once" thing... So, if you roll 7 "1"s, you can reroll them. But, if you get a one again, then you can't reroll...
Correct. No dice in wither 40K or WFB can ever be re-rolled more than once. In fact many special rules that allow a re-roll on to-hit or wound only allow the effect on one or the other.

Once upon a time re-roll were unlimited with proper sources. They have long since got rid of that.
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyFri May 16, 2008 3:16 pm

anyone checked the FAQ on this?
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyFri May 16, 2008 4:00 pm

whats a FAQ? only one I use came with the codex(seeing as how the VC one tells nothing I didnt already figure)
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyTue May 20, 2008 6:54 pm

Matt wrote:
anyone checked the FAQ on this?
The no re-rolling a re-roll is in the front of the main books. The only getting a re-roll on to-hit or to-wound is trend, not a standing rule as it varies.
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyTue May 20, 2008 6:55 pm

FrostWolf wrote:
whats a FAQ?
Frequently Asked Questions.
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyTue May 20, 2008 7:32 pm

sarcasm Bob
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyTue May 20, 2008 7:43 pm

If I've learned one thing about Bruce, it's that he is almost always sarcastic, and to never take much at face value.
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyTue May 20, 2008 7:52 pm

only time Im not if easy to tell(it has to do with stateing facts about a army or a rule and such)
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyWed May 21, 2008 9:31 am

Unfortunately online does not help with things like sarcasm or anything that uses tone and body language. Emotes have been to say the least and interesting stop-gap.
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyWed May 21, 2008 3:59 pm

well as I have mentioned that I am sarcastic about once every month if not every week.......you should know by now Razz Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Sharp Shooter   Sharp Shooter EmptyWed May 21, 2008 6:31 pm

so the FAQ just says yea cant reroll if you get a 2nd one so any 1 you get on a sharpshooter unit can be rerolled as long as you havent already rerolled that dice roll. that clears that one up(the UK site's faqs do not open right so I had to hunt them down on the US site which is a pain)
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