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PostSubject: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 7:59 pm

Tau redux from where I'm sitting. I'll defend the lot to no end Wink

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Ethereal

XV8 Shas'o
Plasma, Missile Pod, MultiTracker

TROOPS
10 Fire Warriors
10 Fire Warriors
10 Fire Warriors
10 Fire Warriors
20 Kroot
20 Kroot

ELITE
4 XV25 Shas'ui
4 XV25 Shas'ui
4 XV25 Shas'ui

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6 Gun Drones
6 Gun Drones

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XV88 Shas'vre [2 Shield Drone]
XV88 Shas'vre [2 Shield Drone]
XV88 Shas'vre [2 Shield Drone]
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 8:06 pm

wanna test vs. Demons?
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 8:16 pm

Using 5th edition PDF?
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 9:23 pm

Sure... ouch gotta get some reading in.... Don't know if I have the most up to date one though.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 9:50 pm

See you Friday then Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 10:46 pm

Wanna try a Tau VS Tau Battle My list vs yours.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyTue Jun 03, 2008 11:05 pm

One beter then that John......I want your Tau.......I'm challenging you 2K Vs BA!

C'mon poser....I was trying to get you online at work and you never came on......
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 7:12 am

When would you like to do this proposed match?
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 7:57 am

2 weeks....June 14th....Sci-Fi City......BRING IT!
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 8:16 am

Soooo.. now that the "Make a Date" session is over, any thoughts on what I took in the list?

For tournies based off of current books, I think we will see 2-3 Monolith lists and Ork/Tyranid hordes. Codex: Space Marines could change this.

So then this is how I see the army working..

The 40 Kroot provide large, Infiltrating, scoring bumps for the nasties running towards my Fire Warrior line. Gun Drones provide a little Deep Striking, pinning capability, fast units to contest objectives late game. As mentioned, the XV88s provide antiAV14 ala Monoliths, Land Raders, etc. Ethereal allows the Fire Warriors and XV88s in the backfield LD re-rolls and even grants Fearless to FW squads he runs back and forth from. I simply have to take the XV8 and may switch to Linked Missile Pod for APCs. Finally, the Stealth Teams provide even more S5 firepower. The models are smaller than the XV8s for LOS purposes, but with Infiltrate and JSJ abilities they take the cake. Unless metagame suggests multiple Rhino APCs (ie: no entangle, no chinese fire drill, etc) than a pair of Linked Missile Pod XV8s may be in order.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 10:19 am

sorry Marc...Sad
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 11:07 am

The one thing that I see is that if you have your troops set up in a gunline, with your XV88s in the back, you will end up giving cover saves to the enemy by firing through all of your firewarriors and kroot.

Hammerheads have the benefit of being physically taller and able to see over intervening troops.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 11:26 am

All my FWs will be modeled kneeling/laying down Laughing

Disruption Pods on a Hammerhead do make them a bit silly.

I could go 2x 10 Fire Warriors and 4x 10 Kroot for more versatility.

Sean may give me a game Friday so we shall see.

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Either way its one helluva boring setup!
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 12:19 pm

How do you handle something like Deep Striking Demons or Pesky orks coming in from behind? Just asking not saying its an issue...
I'll bring both orks and Demons friday just need a few more to finish it out...
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 12:28 pm

I think Kroot will give up KP's a bit too easily to run 4 squads.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyWed Jun 04, 2008 11:05 pm

what an amazing display of firepower man. really the main weakness would be the armies weakness i.e. close combat

i like the idea of a lot of kroot.. cheap and incredibly good at what they do (suck up enemy firepower/time/attention). especially perfect for tau.

wont the XV88's be taller than FW's anyways? you shouldnt have to model them. that will all depend on 5th though i guess and how rules are exactly worded.


i would like to test it out as well... how does 3.5 months from now sound?

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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyFri Jun 06, 2008 9:22 am

Its just how I see Tau in 5th... dull, dull, dull Sad

Hell, all armies are going to Troop spam.

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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyFri Jun 06, 2008 11:58 am

The list is nice overall, but it seems way to static and your XV88's seem prone to easy attacks, sure they have the Shield Drones, but it doesn't seem like your army could last long enough against any army that can move quick and hit hard in H2H. I just don't see this being very effective against a horde army. Main reason for that is I just don't think you can lay down enough fire to wipe them out. Against the demon army I think you wont have that kind of problem, just mostly with fast hard hitting armies will wipe you fast. That's just my two cents though.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tau Empire [5th ed]   1750 Tau Empire [5th ed] EmptyMon Jun 09, 2008 9:59 am

I think I've thought my way into taking a Sky Ray Shocked

Cover Saves will be all over the place in 5th it seems.

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I think Kroot will give up KP's a bit too easily to run 4 squads.
Good point and I would stick with 20 coming on the sides. Maybe I can "Go to the Ground" in some woods near an objective for a 2+ cover save..

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