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PostSubject: new eldar player   Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:10 pm

i am a new player whith an eldar army i am looking for advice for how to field my army and what type of units i need most here is my list:

HQ

yriel

farseer w eldrich storm mind war spirit stones
+bodyguard 3 warlocks

ELITES

x6 scorpions exarch w chainsabres & both powers

TROOPS

x5 dire avengers exarch w shimersield & power wpn & both powers

x5 dire avengers

FAST ATTACK

x3 shining spears exarch w star lance & both powers

x6 swooping hawks exarch w hawks talon & both powers

HEAVY SUPPORT

x1 wraithlord w x2 flamers wraithsword & bright lance

x1 war walker w scatter laser & starcannon spirit stones

x1 falcon scatter laser & pulse laser all viecle upgrades

x1 fire prism all viecle upgrades

point total around 1700

thanks in advance Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: new eldar player   Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:17 pm

first off....have you read through your codex? Your like all over the place with this list. What units really intrest you?? Try building to 1750 too....this is standard points for play.
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PostSubject: Re: new eldar player   Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:59 pm

OK, first off... CJ came across very harsh.

That might be our fault, we like to pick on him so he has to pick on new people to make himself feel better Wink

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Try building to 1750 too....this is standard points for play.

What he means by that, is that most people play to around this level (as it is the GW tournament points level.) It is by no means a enforced for play around here.

Ok on to the list.

It seems as though you are trying to throw down everything that you own. It might be better to target a lower points bracket until you amass a larger collection.

One big weakness of the list is the lack of troops. In 5th Edition 40k troops are the only unit that can capture objectives, so you need to be able to rely upon them. 2x5 Dire Avengers probably wont cut it!

be back in few with more!

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PostSubject: Re: new eldar player   Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:11 pm

i know my army is a bit out of control but i want it to be an adaptable army thanks for your input
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PostSubject: Re: new eldar player   Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:14 pm

i am going to order a new set of men off ebay and it should max me out on troops
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PostSubject: Re: new eldar player   Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:58 pm

Ok, back.

You are also over your number of allowed Heavy Support selections.

So you will need to knock that down to 3.

Other than that I think your army will have a hard time applying itself. You should play a few games and get acquainted with how your army performs and what direction you want to take it in. Perhaps a few 1000 point or smaller games, or maybe 1500 once you get your new squad of troops.

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PostSubject: Re: new eldar player   Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:18 pm

the new set i am buying will contain:

HQ

karandras

autarch

farseer
+7 warlocks

ELITES

x5 scorpions(oop)

x6 wraithguard

TROOPS

x15 avengers

x18 guardians wpn platforms are missile & shuriken

x5 guardian jetbikes(oop)

x10 storm guardians x2 fusion guns

HEAVY SUPPORT

x2 suport wpn batteries

this will give me an apocalypse army of around 3100 points Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: new eldar player   Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:26 pm

You'll have a lot to play with at that point!

If you are new to the game it is best to play some smaller games before jumping into the potential headache of Apocalypse imo.

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PostSubject: Re: new eldar player   Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:32 pm

i know but with this many squads i can customize my army to fit the scenario
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PostSubject: Re: new eldar player   Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:03 pm

Customize your army to fit the scenario?

That kind of list tailoring often doesn't go over well with your opponent, and you'll have to have already chosen a list before rolling off to determine the mission anyways.

It's usually better to come up with "take all comers" lists that are balanced instead of drastically altering your force based on what army and mission you are playing.
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PostSubject: Re: new eldar player   Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:12 pm

thats true however i can make a list for diferent kinds of armys
thanks
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PostSubject: Re: new eldar player   Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:28 am

blurb

i suggest looking at craftworlds and using their suggestions to start an army flavour that you like. speed, assault, shooting, toughness, horde.. its all available to you. think about how you are going to use each unit, and think about which unit could support which other units and how they will accomplish that.

remember an eldar army has the capability to destroy anything.. but its very hard to get the right unit in the right place at the right time. every piece must support the other.

let us know what units will be doing what.. that will help get the right support in with it.
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PostSubject: Re: new eldar player   Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:28 pm

i am thinking mostly infantry with 1 or 2 high powered veicles aka fire prisms
i am thinking about making a diferent list for diferent kinds of armys hord, meq, mech that will alow me to have an adaptable army without to much time wasting at the start.
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PostSubject: Re: new eldar player   Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:39 pm

As was mentioned before, gearing your army against your opponent is generally frowned upon. You are better to make a single "take all comers list" and then play. Otherwise people might avoid playing you at all.

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PostSubject: Re: new eldar player   Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:56 pm

ok i will post a list when i get my package aka several weeks
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