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PostSubject: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyMon Aug 25, 2008 9:12 pm

This is a hypothetical list that I am making here. Just wonderin what you guys thought about it. Gimme some input.

Army: Speed Freak
Points: 1747
Models: 52


Wazdakka Gutsmek 180 x 1

Warboss 125 x 1

Nobz 260 x 4 Warbike, Slugga, Choppa
Pain Boy x 1 Warbike, Dok's Tools, 'urty syringe, Grot Orderly

Nobz 260 x 4 Warbike, Slugga, Choppa
Pain Boy x 1 Warbike, Dok's Tools, 'urty syringe

Warbiker 240 x 8 Warbike, Choppa, Slugga, Dakkagun
Nob x 1 Warbike, Big Choppa, Dakkagun

Warbiker 240 x 8 Warbike, Choppa, Slugga, Dakkagun
Nob x 1 Warbike, Big Choppa, Dakkagun

Warbiker 240 x 8 Warbike, Choppa, Slugga, Dakkagun
Nob x 1 Warbike, Big Choppa, Dakkagun

Boyz 117 x 12 Red Trukk, Slugga, Choppa

Deffkoptas 45 x 1 Twin-Linked Rokkit Launcha

Deffkoptas 45 x 1 Twin-Linked Rokkit Launcha
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 9:15 am

Im really surprised that none of the ork players jumped on this or that no one can say anything bad or good about the list.
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 10:27 am

Does Wazdakka make the bikes troops?

Cause otherwise it will be hard to take objectives.

Also no powerklaws at all? Other than on your warboss maybe. Str 6 big choppas are nice, but how would your list do in an assault. Or deal with high AV vehicles. Can anything here hurt AV14 other than glancing rockets?
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 11:02 am

Wazdakka does make all the bikes troops, I was thinkin of going with claws but I would have to lose some stuff to get them.
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 12:26 pm

Yeah, you have got to have the claws... those nobs are terrifying with some claws sprinkled in.

Gotta get some more boyz in there! Trukk squads are terrible imo... it's too easy to break them. If you want boyz as troops and no wazzdakka then id suggest rolling in a battlewagon or two (i know this will change the list around a ton, but whatcha gonna do Wink)
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 12:36 pm

When taking a Trukk it is vital to take at least 3 so the one and only trukk doesnt get oblitorated too soon.... If you get the first turn they have done their job. And yes they are easy to break but even if you bust it chances are it will still get the boyz closer to the enemy. Tehy are designed that way.

Klaws are a must no way around that. Every squad needs one...

In this kind of list it may be better to split the units up as much as possible. not sure I haven't played enough with the speed freaks, but all it takes is a few of the wounds to actually hit home and the orks will run! My line of thinking is that make them have to take out from more units and hope that some get spared and make it in.

I haven't play tested the Koptas yet so I don't know their usefulness yet...
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 1:02 pm

I redid the list. I added in power klaws with every unit except my nobs because well I did not really have the points for them. I added an additional 2 more deffkoptas and broke my units of bikes down to 6 man groups and got rid of the boyz and trukk.

Army Speed Freaks
PTS 1745
Total 40

Unit
HQ
Wazdakka Gutsmek 180 x 1 Bike Aporkalypse, Kustom Mega-Blasta, Power Klaw, Slugga, Mek's Tools Stikkbombs, Bosspole

Warboss On Bike 125 x 1 Warbike, Power Klaw

Elite
Nobs On Bike 260 x 4 Warbike
Pain Boy x 1 Doks Tools 'urty Syringe

Troops
Nobs On Bike 260 x 4 Warbike
Pain Boy x 1 Doks Tools 'urty Syringe

Warbikers 185 x 5 Choppa, Warbike, Sluga, Dakkagun
Nob x 1 Power Klaw

Warbikers 185 x 5 Choppa, Warbike, Sluga, Dakkagun
Nob x 1 Power Klaw

Warbikers 185 x 5 Choppa, Warbike, Sluga, Dakkagun
Nob x 1 Power Klaw

Warbikers 185 x 5 Choppa, Warbike, Sluga, Dakkagun
Nob x 1 Power Klaw

Fast Attack
Defkoptas 90 x 2 Twin-Linked Rokkit Launcha, Choppa

Defkoptas 90 x 2 Twin-Linked Rokkit Launcha, Choppa
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 1:04 pm

Shouldn't you be WORKING right now instead of working on your list!!! he he
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 1:05 pm

I got some free time so blah...
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 1:47 pm

Yeah...they on the 3rd floor above us here on the 2nd don't know what the meaning of WORK is.....LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 1:48 pm

Sorry for intruding on your thread jon but... CJ are you feeling better? Coming to Illuminati on Friday?
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 1:51 pm

Feeling better and not sure if i'll be making the trip up. It's easier for me to play close with the meds n stuff. So I may be sticking to Sci=Fi and UU&A for now. Thanks for asking tho!
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 2:13 pm

The both of ya's is greasy ninja's.
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 2:16 pm

Making lists at work is classic and very fun.

Especially if you have a quick pts cost cheat sheet and do it in excel it is takes close scrutiny to realize that it isn't actually work.
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 2:28 pm

Thats what I always do is make em in spread sheets.
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 6:59 pm

if you drop the 2 koptas you can get another bike squad with nob
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 7:09 pm

If'n I did that it'd be 42 bikes on da table.
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 8:29 pm

Yep you can't play Orks... you can count...
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyTue Aug 26, 2008 10:07 pm

Aktuly orks can count teef pretty good, and know how many boyz show up for da bashin
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Freak   Speed Freak EmptyWed Aug 27, 2008 11:33 am

So I redid my list one more time, this time its nothing but glorious bikez. I have ten more points just not sure what I should do with them. What's your ideas.

Army: Ork Bikers
Points: 1740
Models: 40

HQ
Wazdakka Gutsmek 180 x 1 Bike Aporkalypse, Kustom Mega-Blasta, Power Klaw, Slugga, Mek's Tools Stikkbombs, Bosspole

Warboss On Bike 130 x 1 Warbike, Power Klaw, Bosspole

Elite
Nobs On Bike 285 x 4 Warbike, 1 Power Klaw
Pain Boy x 1 Doks Tools 'urty Syringe, Grot Orderly

Troops
Nobs On Bike 285 x 4 Warbike, 1 Power Klaw
Pain Boy x 1 Doks Tools 'urty Syringe, Grot Orderly

Warbikers 215 x 6 Choppa, Warbike, Sluga, Dakkagun
Nob x 1 Power Klaw, Boss Pole

Warbikers 215 x 6 Choppa, Warbike, Sluga, Dakkagun
Nob x 1 Power Klaw, Boss Pole

Warbikers 215 x 6 Choppa, Warbike, Sluga, Dakkagun
Nob x 1 Power Klaw, Boss Pole

Warbikers 215 x 6 Choppa, Warbike, Sluga, Dakkagun
Nob x 1 Power Klaw, Boss Pole
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