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PostSubject: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:16 pm

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Mephiston 225

Elite
4 man death company + jump packs 20

5 man vet squad with 3 power weopens 220

venerable dreadnought with multimetla 145

Techmarin 2 servitors 125

10 man tactical plasma gun/cannon 220

10 man tactical plasma gun/cannon 220

10 man tactical melta gun/lascannon 220

3 razorback trasnports 150

Hvy Support

Baal Pred hvy flamers/hunter killer 140

Fast Attack
Land Speeder with multi melta


ok this is my redone tournament list which i am toying with in my head right now......the plan is to split the tacts into 5 man squads each with 4 bolters and a special/hvy weopen and for the razorbacks to provide fire support.
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:21 am

The flamers are not that good of an option on the baal. They just don't get enough licks in, and even when they do they aren't that effective.

No idea what a techmarine is doing in there. Is he just going to babysit the dreadnaught? If so that is pretty pointless. I know he isn't going to be sitting with the baal, because he won't keep up if you are trying to get those flamers in range.

A multi-melta on the dread is pretty wasteful, an assaultcannon works much much much better.

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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:48 pm

well personal id rather have a plasma cannon.....as for the flamers i cant break them off my side sponsens so im stuck with them the techie is there to fix anything that gets broken and to add the extra power fist in and the power weopens.
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:29 pm

Did you use all 1750pts exactly?
I'd like to make suggestions if there is room..
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:38 pm

I understand why the techmarine is in the list, but he won't do a ton of fixing in most games. In fact, techmarines can be math hammered to show just how useless they are. Plus in combat he isn't all that special, especially with only 2 ablative wounds.

I'd use the points somewhere else.

If you really like the plasma cannon on the dread then that is fine, but the Assault Cannon is much better statistically.

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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:32 pm

Matt, Bruce does not believe in statistics for some reason or another. I don't either, but thats because there is no good rolling when my dice are on the field (for me anyways).
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:40 pm

You should buy new dice, yours are obviously ruined in some way.

Statistics are the only thing you an rely on when creating a list

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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:09 pm

not true you can use your experanice to build your list that is what I use to build mine. And yes i might play with removeing both the tech marine and the landspeeder any segustions for what to put in their place though?
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:17 pm

That saves you what, 140 pts? Put in a 5 man tactical with some special weapon or another, or put lascannons on your razorbacks. If you put in another tactical don't forget to put the other DC guy in if you have 5 pts. to spare.
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:20 pm

125 for the tech marine and 65 for the landspeeder
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:22 pm

65? I thought it was 50. Oh well, let's see with 190 pts what can you do? How much for a basic 5 man taci? And then how much to upgrade the razorbacks to las? Don't have my WD's on me at the moment.
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:11 am

Sorry, I should have mentioned other things you can rely on. But my point still stands, statistically the techmarine is not a good choice, i think you would be way better off leaving him at home.

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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:41 am

Nathan wrote:
Don't have my WD's on me at the moment.

This will make things easier for you.
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:47 am

Gah, I clicked on that Marc!

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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:21 pm

I know it would, but I'm too lazy to hit the GW website and print it off.
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:26 pm

Matt wrote:
Gah, I clicked on that Marc!

Did I do something wrong?
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:46 pm

worked just fine for me
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:58 pm

also ok fine like i said if i leave it behind what should i replace it with come on i could use some ideas
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:40 am

Just saying i clicked on without knowing what it is, i already had it Sad

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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:50 pm

ok remake of list removeing some thing to fit more space in points for other things
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Mephiston 225

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4 man death company + jump packs 20

5 man vet squad with 3 power weopens 220

venerable dreadnought with multimetla 145

Troops

10 man tactical plasma gun/cannon 220

10 man tactical plasma gun/cannon 220

10 man tactical melta gun/lascannon 220

10 man tactical melta gun/lascannon 220


4 razorback trasnports 200

Hvy Support

Baal Pred hvy flamers/hunter killer 140

Fast Attack
Land Speeder with multi melta 65

I have 75 points to spare from the techie i removed segustions?
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:51 pm

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Mephiston 225

Elite
4 man death company + jump packs 20

venerable dreadnought with multimetla 145

Troops

10 man tactical plasma gun/cannon 220

10 man tactical plasma gun/cannon 220

10 man tactical melta gun/lascannon 220

10 man tactical melta gun/lascannon 220


4 razorback trasnports 200

Hvy Support

Baal Pred hvy flamers/hunter killer 140

Fast Attack
Land Speeder with multi melta 65
sry guys i forgot to remove the vets
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:48 pm

Decent enough list, hard to deal with so many combat squads. Hopefully the lascannon won't miss 3/5 turns.
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:07 pm

ok i have 75 points for the techie which i removed im also tempted to remove the land spededer which si antoheer 65 segustions on what to add in their place
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:18 pm

See if you can get another Baal, removing the Speeder makes room for it.
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PostSubject: Re: New tourny list for Blood Angels   Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:27 pm

might be useful and i can add heavy bolters to it to that will help a lot on more fire going down range
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