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PostSubject: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:26 pm



Now accepting questions Cool


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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:37 pm

GOD DAMNIT, how do you get me one?

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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:53 pm

My weekly orders go out Friday.

I've had time to digest the book and its well done with maybe a bit too much "check Imperial Armour books for details" adverts.
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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:56 pm

Adverts, or necessities? Do we have to own these books too?

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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:35 pm

Not at all. There are several sheets for FW models. Just not 100% of course.
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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:39 pm

who has the best and worst new stuff
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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:41 pm

What I would like to know is what have they done to units such as the blood angels and how they are going to work in apocalpse.
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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:42 pm

Rhino wrote:
who has the best and worst new stuff

I would say Chaos. They are able to use any Imperial sheets plus they have thier own unique sheets (daemons, spawn, etc)

So an Iron Warriors army with Baneblades and Basilisk batteries Laughing


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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:45 pm

what about tau?
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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:46 pm

Do the Tau gain more Imperial stuff like the infantry?
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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:49 pm

FrostWolf wrote:
What I would like to know is what have they done to units such as the blood angels and how they are going to work in apocalpse.

They lump all Marines together. A nice piece on the BAs "Force Lazarus" from the 2nd War for Armageddon. You could use certain Strategic Assests to make a more specific feel to a particular chapter.
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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:53 pm

sorry but that went right over me head there....mind explaining that so I could understnad that better
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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:03 pm

Well in Apocalypse you can have certain things that help you in games (orbital bomardments, etc) these are known as strategic assets. So the data fax for the the specific force Marc mentioned has some requirements (maybe unit selection or something similar) but then gives you certain strategic requirements.

So you get to play a fluffy army!

But really, the BA just get the same things as the other marine chapters (terminus, other imperial things like baneblades etc).

Right Marc?

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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:10 pm

Correct Matt

re: Tau

They have the Barracuda which is one of the better flyers.
The Rapid Insertion Force sheet is quite good.. Great Knarlacs are meh.

re: Best

I may have to go with Orks now that you guys have me looking thru the book again. Kult of Speed, Stompa, Big Mek Stompa, Skullhamma Battle Fortress, Dred Mob and even the Gargantuan Squiggoth are all quite good.
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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:17 pm

hmm kult of speed you say?

i hope that doesnt mean the speed list you can make with the new codex isn't really a complete kult list.

although I know you can get bikes, truks for all the boys and dethkoptas, so what else did they add for Apocalypse Marc?

Another question, did they prep ork things for the new codex? Anything you can discern from the things in there that are ork related?

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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:04 pm

Matt wrote:
Another question, did they prep ork things for the new codex? Anything you can discern from the things in there that are ork related?

The Kult shown is a Hades Hive representation.

There are plenty of pics of new Ork stuff tho Very Happy
The Bike Skwadrons and tracked vehicles look good.

Matt - did you want one?
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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:16 pm

WHAT???? OFFER MATT ONE FIRST???

man.....

So the ork stuff looks reallly nice?
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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:44 pm

I've got mine coming, so I'm not worried. I just hope that Apocalypse is as amazing as it's supposed to be. One word on the Strategic Assets, you're supposed to get one for having something around a 250 pt. difference in forces. That is, if the WD was right anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:02 am

Nathan wrote:
One word on the Strategic Assets, you're supposed to get one for having something around a 250 pt. difference in forces. That is, if the WD was right anyways.

Correct, though depending on Mission and units selected your side receives "bonus" assests.
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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:49 am

CJ had Kendel at up up and away hold me one.

Thanks for the offer though Marc

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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:37 pm

Doesn't this have some rules in it that tells you how to make your own super-heavy stuff?
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PostSubject: Re: BEHOLD - Apoc book is here   Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:42 pm

Nope, has a two page spread telling you to do 'counts as' as much as you can. It does mention making up your own things, but not to get silly with it.

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