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Mike Leon Forum Moderator

Posts: 667 Join date: 2008-05-12
 | Subject: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Wed May 27, 2009 10:02 pm | |
| I can't make up my mind. _________________  http://whowritesthisstuff.net/ |
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Matt CAG Founder

Posts: 3552 Join date: 2007-08-19 Location: Cincinnati, OH
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Wed May 27, 2009 10:22 pm | |
| I actually think, both pariahs (I know I know... not necrons) and flayed ones can kiiiiiind of work if you use them right. Definitely not as bad as some on that list. ...well maybe pariahs  They are pretty terrible. _________________ Dark Angels 1750 win/loss Record Win - 23 (Belial helped wreck Ryan's puny Eldar) Loss - 13 (Brice's Necrons wiped me) Draw - 2 (The 13th hold out in alpha take and hold)
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Mendin Initiate

Posts: 261 Join date: 2008-07-29
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Wed May 27, 2009 11:35 pm | |
| Daemons of Chaos Furies
e: Well, actually, they're jump infantry, so they have some mobility, and they're cheapish... I dunno |
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FrostWolf Sergeant

Posts: 1065 Join date: 2007-09-09 Location: lost somewere in my own mind
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Thu May 28, 2009 6:25 am | |
| Tau Ethereal, they do more harm than good when you use them, the die easy, and when they die your whole army has to take a morale check, they take up a HQ slot yea competly useless. |
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kainthedragoonx Sergeant


Posts: 597 Join date: 2008-04-15 Age: 30 Location: Team Pork HQ
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Thu May 28, 2009 9:14 am | |
| | FrostWolf wrote: | | Tau Ethereal, they do more harm than good when you use them, the die easy, and when they die your whole army has to take a morale check, they take up a HQ slot yea competly useless. |
Agreed. 100%. FAIL! |
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HAND OF DUME Initiate

Posts: 494 Join date: 2008-04-24 Age: 42 Location: Wastelands of the Miami county
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Thu May 28, 2009 9:18 am | |
| I know they're not on your list... but vanilla chaos lesser daemons totally bite! I would rather have the possessed than the daemons if I had to choose.
Maybe Chaos dreads too... shoot your own guys... forget that crap! |
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jpohagan Neophyte

Posts: 23 Join date: 2008-12-02 Age: 25 Location: West Harrison, IN
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Thu May 28, 2009 10:43 am | |
| It's good to see Ork units are completely useless. Any opinions on what the most useless unit in the Ork army is? Flash Gitz don't seem worth the point cost in my opinion, but I've never actually used them. Maybe that random AP is actually useful. |
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Makari (Sean Pittman) Supreme Forum Overlord

Posts: 2570 Join date: 2007-11-10 Age: 34 Location: Milford, OH
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Thu May 28, 2009 11:52 am | |
| | jpohagan wrote: | It's good to see Ork units are completely useless. Any opinions on what the most useless unit in the Ork army is? Flash Gitz don't seem worth the point cost in my opinion, but I've never actually used them. Maybe that random AP is actually useful. |
Actually i haven't found any ork units to be too horrible to have been put on the list. They all fill a niche that is as good as the player who is using them. Thats why I think the Orks and Guard are the most versitile armies as far as what they can do and do well... Ok gurad still need to prove themselves but I think they will do just fine!!! Flash Gitz may be one of the under used unit but I would definitely use them in a shooty list._________________ The footprints made in the sands of time are not made by sitting down... Unless your playing Warhammer WAAAGH! New times calls for new Records: Orcs & goblins (3-1-2)5th Place at EGC out of 10 Empire (0-0-0) Orks (6-3-0) Went 3-0 @ EGC Tourney Marines (1-2-0) EGC Tourney Tyranids (4-1-0) Martial Law Con, DOOM! |
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Mike Leon Forum Moderator

Posts: 667 Join date: 2008-05-12
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Thu May 28, 2009 12:23 pm | |
| I thought about lesser daemons and I didn't include them in the list because I have actually seen them used effectively before. Dennis runs some and he uses them in really sneaky ways because they can deep strike and still assault.
Possessed I have never seen anybody use, unless they just bought the CSM boxed army and have never played the game before. Then they never use them again after that. _________________  http://whowritesthisstuff.net/ |
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Sexiest_hero Initiate

Posts: 399 Join date: 2008-12-05 Age: 31
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Thu May 28, 2009 12:25 pm | |
| Lesser daemons can charge on the summon, great for daemon bombing bikes. My money goes to the SPACE POPE. Man that tau was crappy. Now a days it goes to Chaos furies. 45$ for 5 t3 str3 flying monkies, No thanks. |
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HAND OF DUME Initiate

Posts: 494 Join date: 2008-04-24 Age: 42 Location: Wastelands of the Miami county
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Thu May 28, 2009 8:33 pm | |
| I'd rather pay the 3 extra points per model and get bolter, bolt pistol, frag and krak grenades than take lesser daemons. And hell they might not come in 'til 5th turn. |
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LupusGhost Neophyte

Posts: 155 Join date: 2008-04-24 Location: west chester
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Fri May 29, 2009 3:48 pm | |
| Space wolves blood claws w/ jump packs. 30 pts for a ws3 assault trooper, huge waste! |
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archite666 Initiate

Posts: 231 Join date: 2008-12-24
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Fri May 29, 2009 4:34 pm | |
| I still don't like ogryns in the new codex... but definitly the most worthless unit in the new guard codex has to be....
Mogul Kamir, Yes I know hes a special character but everything in the codex is so nice except him. Yes lets give rough riders rage! |
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Chethrok_Bloodfist Neophyte

Posts: 189 Join date: 2008-07-12 Location: The deepest pits of Hell ...
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Sun May 31, 2009 12:30 am | |
| Are you kidding? Ogryns are one of the most solid units in the new codex! T5 keeps them around forever (execpt against Dreadnought power fists, of course), and an extra Attack each makes them better in hth.
I will say that Rough Riders are just about the only unit in the IG codex that got totally boned, though. They still only get one hunting lance per game, and after that they don't even get pistols and ccws (they get choice of either pistol or ccw). Mogul Kamir isn't bad per se, but maybe that's because he adds a little hitting power to a unit that's dreadfully underpowered. |
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Matt CAG Founder

Posts: 3552 Join date: 2007-08-19 Location: Cincinnati, OH
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Sun May 31, 2009 1:27 am | |
| They were never worth much after their hunting lance charge anyway. _________________ Dark Angels 1750 win/loss Record Win - 23 (Belial helped wreck Ryan's puny Eldar) Loss - 13 (Brice's Necrons wiped me) Draw - 2 (The 13th hold out in alpha take and hold)
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archite666 Initiate

Posts: 231 Join date: 2008-12-24
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Sun May 31, 2009 2:25 am | |
| | Chethrok_Bloodfist wrote: | Are you kidding? Ogryns are one of the most solid units in the new codex! T5 keeps them around forever (execpt against Dreadnought power fists, of course), and an extra Attack each makes them better in hth.
I will say that Rough Riders are just about the only unit in the IG codex that got totally boned, though. They still only get one hunting lance per game, and after that they don't even get pistols and ccws (they get choice of either pistol or ccw). Mogul Kamir isn't bad per se, but maybe that's because he adds a little hitting power to a unit that's dreadfully underpowered. |
Sorry sir but I will have to totally disagree with you.
Yes they are a 3 wound model, but they are 40 pts and a 5+ save.
Further, rough riders are amazing, sure they don't tie up DCC for many turns, rather they just counter charge the crap out of them and get your guys back to shooting.
Also, if you using rough riders as I'm saying (which makes them extremly viable at 11pts a piece) then you would know that Mogul Kamir is completely a waste as he gives them rage which makes them charge head first into the enemy.
So if you playing line guard like most of us do, and using RR as counter charge, which you should, then you could see why having them charge head on into the enemy before they even reach your lines would be a bad thing.
Now if your one of those new age guys whose trying to go for a CC guard then... well your probably screwed anyway at which point Mogul is perfect. |
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Sexiest_hero Initiate

Posts: 399 Join date: 2008-12-05 Age: 31
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Sun May 31, 2009 6:29 am | |
| I use rough rinders and I love them. But Ogryn are good too. they will outshoot and go toe to toe with a full ork mob. t5 feams thsy don't fear a powerfist or even a lascannon to the domethey are more curvivable than a chaos lord, with a pretty good gun ontop. stuck them infro of whatever you need protected or out in fron in cover. and ethier watch you opponet waste fmall arm fire on them or better shoot a las cannon and find out it doesn't insta-kill them. Each of these guys has the same toughness as a chaos daemon prince. |
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Marc Fantasy Moderator

Posts: 2428 Join date: 2007-08-20 Location: Milford
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Sun May 31, 2009 11:25 am | |
| Tau Stealth Suits Any unit that has the Infiltrate ability is gold in this edition.. |
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Angry Bob Sergeant


Posts: 792 Join date: 2008-01-05
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:37 pm | |
| Had to vote the Ethereal. For all the previously posted reasons AND that they have too much fluff yet can't be even be given a power weapon in the one area they are supposed to be good at.
Not listed but something I haven't ever been too happy with are the priests in the IG book. Painfully expensive and the only thing I'd ever want to use them for is a death or glory chance with their mega-cc weapon. |
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archite666 Initiate

Posts: 231 Join date: 2008-12-24
 | Subject: Re: What is the most useless unit in 40k? Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:29 pm | |
| | Angry Bob wrote: | Had to vote the Ethereal. For all the previously posted reasons AND that they have too much fluff yet can't be even be given a power weapon in the one area they are supposed to be good at.
Not listed but something I haven't ever been too happy with are the priests in the IG book. Painfully expensive and the only thing I'd ever want to use them for is a death or glory chance with their mega-cc weapon. |
Actually the boys over at dakka are making a hella use for them. They blob squads with priests, commies, and sgts with PW. The squads are so cheap you would be surprised how easy it is to put together a multiPF/PW backed by a priest and like 50 warm bodies. |
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