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PostSubject: Tau 1750 Lists   Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:13 pm

Here's a couple of lists I'm playing with.....

1750 Pts - Tau Empire Roster - TauMech1750

HQ: Shas'el (7#, 371 Pts)
1 Shas'el @ 371 Pts
Shas'vre; Bonding Knife; Add Gun Drone; Add Shield Drone; Cyclic Ion Blaster; Iridium Armour; Fusion Blaster; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Hard-wired Target Lock; Targeting Array
2 Shas'vre @ [224] Pts
Add Gun Drone; Add Shield Drone; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Missile Pod; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Plasma Rifle; Hard-wired Target Lock; Targeting Array
1 Gun Drone @ [10] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator
1 Gun Drone @ [10] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator

Troops: Fire Warrior (8#, 120 Pts)
6 Fire Warrior @ 120 Pts
Add Shas'ui; Pulse Rifle (x6)
1 Shas'ui @ [60] Pts
Bonding Knife; Pulse Rifle; Add Shield Drone; Markerlight; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Hard-wired Target Lock
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator

Troops: Fire Warrior (8#, 120 Pts)
6 Fire Warrior @ 120 Pts
Add Shas'ui; Pulse Rifle (x6)
1 Shas'ui @ [60] Pts
Bonding Knife; Pulse Rifle; Add Shield Drone; Markerlight; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Hard-wired Target Lock
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator

Elite: Shas'vre (4#, 241 Pts)
1 Shas'vre @ 241 Pts
Bonding Knife; Team Leader; Shas'vre Upgrade; Add Shield Drone; Crisis Battlesuit; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Missile Pod; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Plasma Rifle; Hard-wired Target Lock; Targeting Array
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator
2 Crisis Battlesuit @ [134] Pts
Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Targeting Array

Elite: Shas'vre (4#, 241 Pts)
1 Shas'vre @ 241 Pts
Bonding Knife; Team Leader; Shas'vre Upgrade; Add Shield Drone; Crisis Battlesuit; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Missile Pod; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Plasma Rifle; Hard-wired Target Lock; Targeting Array
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator
2 Crisis Battlesuit @ [134] Pts
Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Targeting Array

Elite: Shas'vre (4#, 241 Pts)
1 Shas'vre @ 241 Pts
Bonding Knife; Team Leader; Shas'vre Upgrade; Add Shield Drone; Crisis Battlesuit; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Missile Pod; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Plasma Rifle; Hard-wired Target Lock; Targeting Array
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator
2 Crisis Battlesuit @ [134] Pts
Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Targeting Array

Fast Attack: Piranha Light Skimmer (3#, 85 Pts)
1 Piranha Light Skimmer @ 85 Pts
Fusion Blaster (x1); Gun Drones (x1); Targeting Array (x1); Target Lock (x1); Seeker Missle (x1)
2 Gun Drones @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines

Fast Attack: Piranha Light Skimmer (3#, 85 Pts)
1 Piranha Light Skimmer @ 85 Pts
Fusion Blaster (x1); Gun Drones (x1); Targeting Array (x1); Target Lock (x1); Seeker Missle (x1)
2 Gun Drones @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines

Fast Attack: Piranha Light Skimmer (3#, 85 Pts)
1 Piranha Light Skimmer @ 85 Pts
Fusion Blaster (x1); Gun Drones (x1); Targeting Array (x1); Target Lock (x1); Seeker Missle (x1)
2 Gun Drones @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines

Heavy Support: Hammerhead Gunship (1#, 160 Pts)
1 Hammerhead Gunship @ 160 Pts
Railgun; Smart Missile System; Targeting Array; Landing Gear

Total Roster Cost: 1749

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1750 Pts - Tau Empire Roster - Tauv21750

HQ: Shas'el (7#, 367 Pts)
1 Shas'el @ 367 Pts
Shas'vre; Bonding Knife; Burst Cannon; Add Gun Drone; Add Shield Drone; Cyclic Ion Blaster; Iridium Armour; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Hard-wired Target Lock; Targeting Array
2 Shas'vre @ [224] Pts
Add Gun Drone; Add Shield Drone; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Missile Pod; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Plasma Rifle; Hard-wired Target Lock; Targeting Array
1 Gun Drone @ [10] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator
1 Gun Drone @ [10] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator

Troops: Fire Warrior (10#, 167 Pts)
7 Fire Warrior @ 167 Pts
Add Shas'ui; Pulse Rifle (x7); EMP Grenade
1 Shas'ui @ [76] Pts
Bonding Knife; Pulse Rifle; Add Gun Drone; Add Shield Drone; EMP Grenade; Markerlight; Hard-wired Drone Controller; EMP Grenade; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Hard-wired Target Lock
1 Gun Drone @ [10] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator

Troops: Fire Warrior (10#, 167 Pts)
7 Fire Warrior @ 167 Pts
Add Shas'ui; Pulse Rifle (x7); EMP Grenade
1 Shas'ui @ [76] Pts
Bonding Knife; Pulse Rifle; Add Gun Drone; Add Shield Drone; EMP Grenade; Markerlight; Hard-wired Drone Controller; EMP Grenade; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Hard-wired Target Lock
1 Gun Drone @ [10] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator

Fast Attack: Piranha Light Skimmer (6#, 265 Pts)
4 Piranha Light Skimmer @ 265 Pts
Burst Cannon (x3); Fusion Blaster (x1); Gun Drones (x4); Targeting Array (x1); Target Lock (x1); Seeker Missle (x1)
2 Gun Drones @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines

Elite: Crisis Battlesuit (5#, 246 Pts)
1 Crisis Battlesuit @ 246 Pts
Bonding Knife; Team Leader; Add Gun Drone; Add Shield Drone; Crisis Battlesuit; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Missile Pod; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Plasma Rifle; Hard-wired Target Lock; Targeting Array
1 Gun Drone @ [10] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator
2 Crisis Battlesuit @ [134] Pts
Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Targeting Array

Elite: Crisis Battlesuit (5#, 246 Pts)
1 Crisis Battlesuit @ 246 Pts
Bonding Knife; Team Leader; Add Gun Drone; Add Shield Drone; Crisis Battlesuit; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Missile Pod; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Plasma Rifle; Hard-wired Target Lock; Targeting Array
1 Gun Drone @ [10] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator
2 Crisis Battlesuit @ [134] Pts
Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Targeting Array

Heavy Support: Shas'vre (5#, 290 Pts)
1 Shas'vre @ 290 Pts
Broadside Battlesuit; Bonding Knife; Team Leader(Broadside); Twinlinked Railgun; Shas'vre Upgrade(Broadside); Smart Missile System; Add Gun Drone; Add Shield Drone; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Hard-wired Target Lock; Targeting Array
2 Broadside Battlesuit @ [160] Pts
Twinlinked Railgun; Smart Missile System; Targeting Array
1 Gun Drone @ [10] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator

Total Roster Cost: 1748

Created with Army Builder
Copyright (c) 1997-2006 Lone Wolf Development, Inc. All rights reserved.

Here's the Edit of the 3rd one I forgot to post.....Everyone look it over.

1750 Pts - Tau Empire Roster - 1750Tauv3

HQ: Shas'el (6#, 341 Pts)
1 Shas'el @ 341 Pts
Bonding Knife; Shas'vre; Shas'vre; Add Shield Drone; Cyclic Ion Blaster; Iridium Armour; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Missile Pod; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Hard-wired Target Lock; Targeting Array
1 Shas'vre @ [102] Pts
Add Shield Drone; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Missile Pod; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Plasma Rifle; Hard-wired Target Lock; Targeting Array
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator
1 Shas'vre @ [102] Pts
Add Shield Drone; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Missile Pod; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Plasma Rifle; Hard-wired Target Lock; Targeting Array
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator

Troops: Fire Warrior (7#, 70 Pts)
7 Fire Warrior @ 70 Pts
Pulse Rifle (x7)

Troops: Fire Warrior (7#, 70 Pts)
7 Fire Warrior @ 70 Pts
Pulse Rifle (x7)

Elite: Shas'vre (4#, 241 Pts)
1 Shas'vre @ 241 Pts
Bonding Knife; Team Leader; Shas'vre Upgrade; Add Shield Drone; Crisis Battlesuit; Crisis Battlesuit; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Missile Pod; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Plasma Rifle; Hard-wired Target Lock; Targeting Array
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator
1 Crisis Battlesuit @ [67] Pts
Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Targeting Array
1 Crisis Battlesuit @ [67] Pts
Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Targeting Array

Elite: Shas'vre (4#, 241 Pts)
1 Shas'vre @ 241 Pts
Bonding Knife; Team Leader; Shas'vre Upgrade; Add Shield Drone; Crisis Battlesuit; Crisis Battlesuit; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Missile Pod; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Plasma Rifle; Hard-wired Target Lock; Targeting Array
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator
1 Crisis Battlesuit @ [67] Pts
Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Targeting Array
1 Crisis Battlesuit @ [67] Pts
Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Targeting Array

Elite: Shas'vre (4#, 241 Pts)
1 Shas'vre @ 241 Pts
Bonding Knife; Team Leader; Shas'vre Upgrade; Add Shield Drone; Crisis Battlesuit; Crisis Battlesuit; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Missile Pod; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Plasma Rifle; Hard-wired Target Lock; Targeting Array
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator
1 Crisis Battlesuit @ [67] Pts
Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Targeting Array
1 Crisis Battlesuit @ [67] Pts
Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Targeting Array

Fast Attack: Piranha Light Skimmer (3#, 90 Pts)
1 Piranha Light Skimmer @ 90 Pts
Fusion Blaster (x1); Gun Drones (x1); Targeting Array (x1); Seeker Missle (x2)
2 Gun Drones @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines

Fast Attack: Piranha Light Skimmer (3#, 90 Pts)
1 Piranha Light Skimmer @ 90 Pts
Fusion Blaster (x1); Gun Drones (x1); Targeting Array (x1); Seeker Missle (x2)
2 Gun Drones @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines

Fast Attack: Piranha Light Skimmer (3#, 90 Pts)
1 Piranha Light Skimmer @ 90 Pts
Fusion Blaster (x1); Gun Drones (x1); Targeting Array (x1); Seeker Missle (x2)
2 Gun Drones @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines

Heavy Support: Shas'vre (4#, 275 Pts)
1 Shas'vre @ 275 Pts
Bonding Knife; Broadside Battlesuit; Broadside Battlesuit; Team Leader(Broadside); Twinlinked Railgun; Shas'vre Upgrade(Broadside); Smart Missile System; Add Shield Drone; Hard-wired Drone Controller; Hard-wired Multi-tracker; Targeting Array
1 Broadside Battlesuit @ [80] Pts
Twinlinked Railgun; Smart Missile System; Targeting Array
1 Broadside Battlesuit @ [80] Pts
Twinlinked Railgun; Smart Missile System; Targeting Array
1 Shield Drone @ [15] Pts
Shield Generator

Total Roster Cost: 1749

Created with Army Builder
Copyright (c) 1997-2006 Lone Wolf Development, Inc. All rights reserved.


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PostSubject: Re: Tau 1750 Lists   Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:26 pm

Try dropping the gun drones and the drones on the fire warriors and try switching out the hammerhead for broad sides it will give you more stuff to play with. Also you might try useing twin linked plasma/missle pod combo though expencive in points it has won me a number of battles when my suqad leaders and my body guards use them. just a few thought that might help
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PostSubject: Re: Tau 1750 Lists   Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:55 pm

Bruce....this is a suit army......With points I have and needing to take 2 troops, I ran out of points.

Now my 2500 pt army has 3-3man squads of Broadsides


also did I mention Tau was my very first army???
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PostSubject: Re: Tau 1750 Lists   Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:00 pm

it is my 1st army also the problem is your troops are beffed out a ton of stuff that can be worthless the gun drone and the shiled drone on the troops is just dead weight for me at least
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PostSubject: Re: Tau 1750 Lists   Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:13 pm

I agree with Bruce, beefing the troops at all in a suit army is pointless. If you want to go suits, the ignore the troops as much as possible. Look to Marc for some inspiration here!

Even if it is your first army, taking criticism is part of posting a list. Besides, you really didn't play it for long.

Also CJ, if you could, look at the guidelines in the forum abotu posting lists. At least bolding the units will help make this easier to read.

Copy/Paste from Army builder is super hard to read, and it contains a lot of useless information.

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PostSubject: Re: Tau 1750 Lists   Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:28 pm

forgot about that cuz we discused that yesterday at your house.....

you guys are right about the troops.....I have a 3rd list I forgot about too that it's just a base of 6 troops in 2 squads with no drones or upgrades....I'll post that in my edits above...

Matt...I played my Tau more then any of my armies...
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PostSubject: Re: Tau 1750 Lists   Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:44 pm

My eyes hurt CJ No

Could you write it out in simpler form?

example : MultiTracker - MT; HardWired Black SunFilter - HWBSF

THEN I shall grant you my sage advice Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Tau 1750 Lists   Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:48 pm

Oh I know, but not much at all. An army I played very little (my Nurgle) was still played in around 30 games or so. You really didn't play your Tau much.

I mean no offense, just pointing that out. Plus, back then, you were much worse than you are now with the rules etc.

I like the idea of minimizing the troops more though. Take a leaf out of Marcs book and look at some Kroot. They make decent speed bumps and very good counter infiltration (they are super cheap, so expendable).

My 2 cents.

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PostSubject: Re: Tau 1750 Lists   Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:13 pm

Indeed. The 7pt Kroot is the 2nd best model in the game.






..1st being the 11pt Battle Sister (really, go read about Faith Points)

CJ:
I love the Piranha.
I'd go three units of 2 Laughing Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Tau 1750 Lists   Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:29 pm

Marc.....this is the army builder layout.....instead of spending 50 years...I hit copy and paste......sorry I hurt your eyes.

Also....I actually was going to go no heavies on the list and 3 2 man squads of Pirahnas with the suits.

The lists would have been Elite and Fast heavy. Very mobile.

Also...using Firewarriors are give me a better shooty Weapon and better Save...
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PostSubject: Re: Tau 1750 Lists   Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:33 pm

6 Piranhas
40 Fire Warriors
8 XV8 Crisis Suits

CHECK
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PostSubject: Re: Tau 1750 Lists   Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:17 pm

Another great example of a suit list is one I posted though I do admit if it a mission I will only win by killing the other guys army. but I do belive Ill take back my broadside comment the hammerhead can be useful in high numbers armies like nids when you fight a ton of units with 5+ saves the sub rail gun will kill. The pirangas are good but mine normal are only 70 points(60 base plus the fusion plus targeting arrey since they are already fast they dont need the fire as if you are a fast upgrade)
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PostSubject: Re: Tau 1750 Lists   Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:56 pm

CJ, you really have a hard time listening. When I mention looking at the guidelines, look at the guidelines if you can.

You just bolded the whole thing, so not much help. You can still copy and paste the list, but after you do so just highlight the unit name and hit bold. Not too difficult.

Also, and this a problem a lot of people have on the forum, when you ask for advice on a list simply refuting everything that is said won't help you at all. Of course, you are obviously welcome to your own opinion.

But when people who have had massive success with a similar list, might be a good idea to listen up a bit more. After all, we are all here to help each other out.

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PostSubject: Re: Tau 1750 Lists   Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:51 pm

matt....here you go again....all I'm doing is explaining why I went with something....

as for the guidelines...

THEY SUCK

there's my 2 cents worth...

trust me....I'm working on a list with everyone's opinions...when that is finished....I'll post it....

the lists above are always a WIP and are subject to change....

Bruce and Marc have been a huge help so far!

And no Marc.....I won't need 40 Firewarriors...lol

now Hammerheads.....
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PostSubject: Re: Tau 1750 Lists   Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:27 pm

I don't usually have much to say in the affairs of the xenos, but the one thing I really didn't like was the shield/gun drone combo. It seems to work better (against me) as either one, the other, or none at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Tau 1750 Lists   Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:54 pm

me too after looking at it Nathen...I dropped gun drones except for the suits and just carried sheild instead. You can hand out wounds to drones since they are part of the units which then give your troops or suits another day to fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Tau 1750 Lists   Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:10 am

CJ wrote:
And no Marc.....I won't need 40 Firewarriors...lol

now Hammerheads.....

Done

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