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PostSubject: GW states all FW stuff is legal for their events   Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:10 pm

All Forge World stuff is now legal, oh my. Now GW opened their mouths about tourneys and such and made this official. This could be scary but could be time to do some English shopping.
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PostSubject: Re: GW states all FW stuff is legal for their events   Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:02 pm

baltak wrote:
All Forge World stuff is now legal, oh my.  Now GW opened their mouths about tourneys and such and made this official.  This could be scary but could be time to do some English shopping.



link to the article please.
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PostSubject: Re: GW states all FW stuff is legal for their events   Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:06 am

Forge World just put the following statement on Facebook.






Warhammer World have just announced an update to their Warrior's Code which now allows the use of Forge World rules! You can download the pdf of the Warrior's Code in the link below.

The Warhammer World Events Team are pleased to announce an update to The Warrior's Code, the document used in conjunction with all of our events. We're excited to announce that there's a been a big change in the armies usable at events such as Throne of Skulls, Battle Brothers and more besides. With immediate effect, rules from Forge World, including the Imperial Armour army lists, one off models and the experimental rules are useable at our events, giving you all the more excuse to paint up those cool models in your collection. We've also introduced the use of Scrolls of Binding from Storm of Magic in Warhammer, letting you guys use those awesome big monsters everyone loves! Follow the link below to have a read for yourself. Cheers all The Warhammer World Events Team


http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_..._2014_V1.4.pdf
I have this funny feeling that in Nottingham's mind the philosophy they are desperately trying to beat into their customer's noggins is: Play with ALL the toys - it's ALL official (and the corollary: BUY-BUY-BUY!!!).
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PostSubject: Re: GW states all FW stuff is legal for their events   Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:11 pm

baltak wrote:
Forge World just put the following statement on Facebook.






Warhammer World have just announced an update to their Warrior's Code which now allows the use of Forge World rules! You can download the pdf of the Warrior's Code in the link below.

The Warhammer World Events Team are pleased to announce an update to The Warrior's Code, the document used in conjunction with all of our events. We're excited to announce that there's a been a big change in the armies usable at events such as Throne of Skulls, Battle Brothers and more besides. With immediate effect, rules from Forge World, including the Imperial Armour army lists, one off models and the experimental rules are useable at our events, giving you all the more excuse to paint up those cool models in your collection. We've also introduced the use of Scrolls of Binding from Storm of Magic in Warhammer, letting you guys use those awesome big monsters everyone loves! Follow the link below to have a read for yourself. Cheers all The Warhammer World Events Team


http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_..._2014_V1.4.pdf
I have this funny feeling that in Nottingham's mind the philosophy they are desperately trying to beat into their customer's noggins is: Play with ALL the toys - it's ALL official (and the corollary: BUY-BUY-BUY!!!).

It's interesting, but it means precisely **** when it comes to tournaments. GW has no say in what tournament organizers do, and they have completely abandoned the tournament scene.

Case in point: most of the large scale tournaments have instituted bans of varying degrees on Escalation, Stronghold Assault, Dataslates, Supplements, and Forgeworld. This includes the Las Vegas Open, Adepticon, Feast of Blades, Bay Area Open, Indy Open, etc etc etc. On the plus side, its actually caused a lot of the Tournament Organizers to come together to try to develop a cohesive set of rules, which is a plus for any organized event. Still waiting to see what they come up with.

Around here, everything still gets used though (as far as I know). So there's that.
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PostSubject: Re: GW states all FW stuff is legal for their events   Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:41 pm

I hear ya Dan I just find it interesting is all. You know I have no interest in playing in a "competitive" atmosphere. I like to play in tourneys and friendly games and of course to try and win but it is far from life and death. The way things stand now you can't expect an ork player to win lots of "competitive" tournaments. That said I think it does bring a unique flavor and if you have the rules to run the units and can produce them for the opponent from an unquestionable source (like an Imperial Armor book for example) then I say play them all and the dust will settle itself out. There will always be "broken" units but there is a way to beat any strategy and that is what a competitive environment should have to bring out the effort in players to build the best list they can.
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PostSubject: Re: GW states all FW stuff is legal for their events   Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:43 pm

DanB wrote:
baltak wrote:
Forge World just put the following statement on Facebook.






Warhammer World have just announced an update to their Warrior's Code which now allows the use of Forge World rules! You can download the pdf of the Warrior's Code in the link below.

The Warhammer World Events Team are pleased to announce an update to The Warrior's Code, the document used in conjunction with all of our events. We're excited to announce that there's a been a big change in the armies usable at events such as Throne of Skulls, Battle Brothers and more besides. With immediate effect, rules from Forge World, including the Imperial Armour army lists, one off models and the experimental rules are useable at our events, giving you all the more excuse to paint up those cool models in your collection. We've also introduced the use of Scrolls of Binding from Storm of Magic in Warhammer, letting you guys use those awesome big monsters everyone loves! Follow the link below to have a read for yourself. Cheers all The Warhammer World Events Team


http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_..._2014_V1.4.pdf
I have this funny feeling that in Nottingham's mind the philosophy they are desperately trying to beat into their customer's noggins is: Play with ALL the toys - it's ALL official (and the corollary: BUY-BUY-BUY!!!).

It's interesting, but it means precisely **** when it comes to tournaments.  GW has no say in what tournament organizers do, and they have completely abandoned the tournament scene.

Case in point: most of the large scale tournaments have instituted bans of varying degrees on Escalation, Stronghold Assault, Dataslates, Supplements, and Forgeworld.  This includes the Las Vegas Open, Adepticon, Feast of Blades, Bay Area Open, Indy Open, etc etc etc.  On the plus side, its actually caused a lot of the Tournament Organizers to come together to try to develop a cohesive set of rules, which is a plus for any organized event.  Still waiting to see what they come up with.

Around here, everything still gets used though (as far as I know).  So there's that.


Not true, I want to field an XV107......but its a PDF download, can I still use that?
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PostSubject: Re: GW states all FW stuff is legal for their events   Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:46 am

So now that my email and facebook messages have stopped getting flooded by this question...
The its ALL "official" at these GW Sanctioned events is not the same as 40K approved or equivalent.

Still check with each tourneament you plan to attend ahead of time to see what is allowed beyond the BRB and Codex.

Having said that don't forget this Saturday we are testing Stronghold assault and escalation, 40K approved again at EGC. come bring yous stuff and help us choose whats going to be allowed for CAGBASH 2014.

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PostSubject: Re: GW states all FW stuff is legal for their events   Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:48 am

baltak wrote:
I hear ya Dan I just find it interesting is all.  You know I have no interest in playing in a "competitive" atmosphere.  I like to play in tourneys and friendly games and of course to try and win but it is far from life and death.  The way things stand now you can't expect an ork player to win lots of "competitive" tournaments.  That said I think it does bring a unique flavor and if you have the rules to run the units and can produce them for the opponent from an unquestionable source (like an Imperial Armor book for example) then I say play them all and the dust will settle itself out.  There will always be "broken" units but there is a way to beat any strategy and that is what a competitive environment should have to bring out the effort in players to build the best list they can.

Yeah.  I'm not trying to be disparaging or anything.  I know there are lot of people who play 40k just to see cool painted stuff blow each other up, there's certainly nothing wrong with that.  I just have a different opinion when it comes to tournaments.  Ideally, they should be balanced events, where everyone has fun but also has close games.  We all know this isn't an ideal world, but lately it just feels like GW completely stopped trying.  And that's their prerogative, certainly.
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PostSubject: Re: GW states all FW stuff is legal for their events   Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:43 pm

I see your point Dan but how do you balance it so armies can compete on an even footing. I don't see a lot of Sisters armies out there on the tourney scene. Orks are a very popular Xeno army and right now they aren't even considered competitive on the tourney scene at all. I would love to see a balanced world where skill takes more of a role in game wins instead of simple luck(dice rolling tends to even out over the long haul). I can accept losing a bad matchup (like losing a game recently when I brought a lifta grabba and end up fighting a Nidzilla type of list) but some armies are painfully weaker than other armies in the current game as it stands. This definitely speaks to your point that GW definitely cares nothing for true competition so I do agree with you on that point as well.
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PostSubject: Re: GW states all FW stuff is legal for their events   Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:02 pm

my question was missed...

I want to field an XV107......but its a Forgeworld PDF download with experimental rules, can I still use that?
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PostSubject: Re: GW states all FW stuff is legal for their events   Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:13 pm

I just looked at the XV107 it is still in experimental phase and not 40K approved yet. Sorry.

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PostSubject: Re: GW states all FW stuff is legal for their events   Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:33 pm

Makari wrote:
I just looked at the XV107 it is still in experimental phase and not 40K approved yet.  Sorry.

ok so anything experimental is still excluded...got it! Saved me from dropping a load
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