More 5th Addition rumors

From BigRed over at the BoLS

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5th’ edition 40K is due for release in 2008 although we have conflicting reports about the release date, it’s going to be either summer or more probably autumn (GDUK 08).

There will be a new rulebook and new starter set which will be Orks vs marines, it will include both troops and vehicles (a marine dreadnought is likely and possibly others). The 3up grot seen at UKGD ’07 is also for the starter box.

Rumoured rules amendments
1. the addition of a ‘run’ option (similar to fleet but with a trade off to keep fleet special).
2. Improvements to the cover save rules.
3. Rending toned down (auto wound if you roll a 6 to wound & reduction in effectiveness against vehicles).
4. Template(Blast) weapons rules streamlined.
5. Sniper weapons rules amended (rending probable)
6. Close combat rules amended with a combat resolution phase similar to fantasy
7. Single vehicle damage table.
8. Vehicles without a WS in CC always get hit in the rear armour.
9. Vehicles able to ram
10. Other vehicle amendments
11. Mission rules changed in a similar manner to Apocalypse (no more Alpha, Gamma or Omega).
12. Only non vehicle non swarm troop choices are scoring units (Note I did not say infantry)
13. Vehicles types are adjusted (the rumoured skimmer nerf)

Overall the ruleset hasn’t changed dramatically but areas have been clarified, streamlined and in some cases brought closer to 2nd edition. I’ll add to the list as we hear more.

Don’t forget these are rumours and should not be treated as the truth.

~Wow, this latest set promises to really shake up the game. In particular, the restriction of scoring units to TROOPS only willl turn the tournament scene on its head! -bigred

I agree with bigred on that last point, scoring units being troops only will turn everything on it's head. Fluffy armies will be back in fashion. Or at least ultra powerful lists will be toned down a bit.

The mission rules change will mess with the tournament scene a ton too.

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Yes folks, Brimstone has come back twice on warseer to clarify that he is talking about TROOPS choices on the Force Organizational Chart regarding rumor #12.

That means there are NO scoring units for HQ, ELITES, FAST ATTACK, or HEAVY SUPPORT.

That's one way to nerf the Falcon!

Deathwing terminators under Belial being one of the only 2+ save models that count as scoring... wooo!

On a related note, it is a very cool thing for GW to look to the tournament scene when changing/updating the core ruleset. Almost all of these changes attempt to answer problems on the tournament scene. Should mix things up a fair bit.

I'll give it three months after the big release before power-players find out how to screw with the system again.

wow.....sounds more like at-43..lol

I pity the Guard players

And my death company. I havent even built them and they are already being nerfed.

Guard can field a ton of scoring units though

Still pretty far away from AT-43 CJ