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PostSubject: Daemons   Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:27 am

...via Warseer

Chaos Daemons army book

The book is out in May 2008, meaning that some stuff goes on sale late in April.

Amy special rules:
- Instability is altered somewhat, now there is no special effect of rolling above your basic Leadership, so you just take a modified break test and lose a number of wounds equal to the amount you failed the roll by.
- Supposedly, units within 12" of the army general may take their Daemonic Ward save against any kind of attacks, not just non-magical ones. Units more than 12" away from the general follow the current rules for Daemonic auras.


Lores of Nurgle, Slaanesh and Tzeentch
- different from the ones in the other two chaos books

Daemon Lore of Tzeentch
- Supposedly only 6 spells
#1: Red fire, D6+1 hits, D6+1 Strength, 24" range OR D6 hits, D6 Strength, 18" range (sources do not agree)
#2: Adds d3+1 Power dice to own side's dice pool
#3: Gleam Magic, cast any enemy spell (other than one that creates new models, such as certain Undead spells) as a Bound spell with a power level equal to its basic casting level
#4: 2D6 hits, D6+1 Strength, 30" range
#5: Unknown
#6: One Strength 5 hit per model in unit - creates horrors

Daemon Lore of Slaanesh
#1: Enemy unit must test for Stupidity each turn for the rest of the game




Lords
- Greater daemons are supposedly more modifiable than currently, more resembling how they were in 5th edition.

Changer of Ways, Greater Daemon of Tzeentch
- Level 4 wizard

Keeper of Secrets, Greater Daemon of Slaanesh
- Level 2 wizard, may be upgraded to level 4

Great Unclean One, Greater Daemon of Nurgle
- Level 2 wizard, may be upgraded to level 4

Daemon Prince
- Possible new plastic set


Heroes
- If the Fantasy list matches the 40K lists, then chariots are only available as a mount for Heralds, though this is speculation only
- Supposedly there will be no Undivided Heralds
- It is possible that there will be no "generic" Herald models and that people will be expected to use or convert the special character ones (see below) instead. Or it might be that there will be a plastic Heral set at some point

Herald of Nurgle
- May ride a Palanquin of Nurgle

Herald of Khorne
- May ride a Juggernaut of Khorne

Herald of Slaanesh
- May ride a Steed of Slaanesh

Herald of Tzeentch
- May ride a Disk of Tzeentch


Core
- The Leadership of the Core daemons are supposedly the same as in the Hordes of Chaos book (in the Daemonic Legions list it is higher)

Bloodletters of Khorne
- New plastic models
- Toughness increase

Daemonettes of Slaanesh
- New plastic models

Plaguebearers of Nurgle
- New metal command models, possibly a plastic set at some later date

Horrors of Tzeentch
- New metal command models, possibly a plastic set at some later date
- Different bound spells than in the Hordes of Chaos list

Chaos Furies
- No news

Nurglings
- No news


Special?

Flesh Hounds of Khorne
- May be upgraded to have Magic Resistance 3, Killing Blow or the ability to ignore terrain penalties
- New models?

Screamers of Tzeentch
- Strength and Toughness reduced
- Strength of slashing attacks up to 5, may make slashing attacks to all units they move over, not just one
- Slightly cheaper

Flamers of Tzeentch
- If the Fantasy list resembles the 40K one, these will be a separate unit

Seekers of Slaanesh
- Equivalent to mounted Daemonettes (i.e. the ones on cavalry bases), NOT the daemonettes on Steeds of Slaanesh from the Storm of Chaos list


Rare?

Bloodcrushers of Khorne (Bloodletters riding Juggernauts)
- New metal models
- Improved armour save
- Frenzied (1 base A from rider, 2 from steed, so 5 attacks in total while Frenzied)

Plagueriders of Nurgle (Plaguebearers on Beasts of Nurgle)
- New metal models
- Separate stats for rider and mount, more similar to standard cavalry
- Other rumours say that the models don't have riders
- Beasts have D3+2 poisoned attacks

Fiends of Slaanesh?
- New models?

Daemonic chariots???



Special characters
- There are supposedly twelve of them (unknown if the Horror group is counted as 1 or 3...)
- Note that the special characters are the same in both the 40K and the Fantasy lists, though naturally their stats and exact abilities may differ somewhat.

Fateweaver, Oracle of Tzeentch (Greater Daemon of Tzeentch)
- Model has two heads
- Knows all Tzeentch spells and each head also knows 4 spells from any of the lores (in the rulebook?)
- 40K version has only one(!) wound, but doubtless some special rule to make up for it

Name not known (Greater Daemon of Nurgle) - [Foulspawn? I had heard he was coming back - Matt]

U'zuhl (Greater Daemon of Chaos Undivided)?
- The guy who ended up in Archaon's sword...

Tallyman Epidemius (Herald of Nurgle)
- Mounted on a Palanquin of Nurgle

The Masque (Herald of Slaanesh)
- Kicked out of Slaanesh's entourage for being able to out-dance his (her? its?) god
- Has a special rule in 40K called the Eternal Dance
- 3 human arms and a big claw arm. Wields a staff with a mask at either end and changes it's personality depending on who it chooses to be.

Skulltaker? (Herald of Khorne)
- Angry, Bloodletter-style model

Name not known (Herald of Tzeentch)

Name not known (Horror command group)
- Gives a boost to the unit they lead

Name not known (Flesh Hound leader)
- Multple heads


Stuff removed from the list
- Exalted Daemons (use as Daemon Prince)
- Pleasureseekers of Slaanesh (use as Fiends or Seekers, possibly counting each model as two, or as Heralds)
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PostSubject: Re: Daemons   Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:30 am

LLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG list
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PostSubject: Re: Daemons   Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:33 am

..but worth the read Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Daemons   Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:36 am

lol i do like it if thats what your saying
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PostSubject: Re: Daemons   Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:22 am

thanks for the roundup Marc.

Lot's to sink my teeth into there.

It would be nice to magnetize all the models so that I can do baseswaps Smile

I'm sure that will be popular right after they release.

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PostSubject: Re: Daemons   Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:25 pm

Never seen so much.........DAEMON
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PostSubject: Re: Daemons   Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:23 am

So does this men that some of us get our wish and GW is gonna make a plastic juggernaught of Khorn?

-Me hopes much.....Master!
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PostSubject: Re: Daemons   Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:00 pm

That would be very nice to have wouldnt it
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