need advice on two possible lists for the torney

first one feel free to rip it up

HQ: Broodlord (12#, 358 Pts)
1 Broodlord @ 358 Pts
Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Rending Claws; Scything Talons; Synapse Creature
11 Genestealers @ [275] Pts
Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Rending Claws; Scything Talons

HQ: Warriors (4#, 160 Pts)
4 Warriors @ 160 Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Rending Claws (x1); Scything Talons (x1); Synapse Creature

Troops: Gaunt Brood (12#, 60 Pts)
12 Gaunt Brood @ 60 Pts
Spinefists

Troops: Gaunt Brood (12#, 60 Pts)
12 Gaunt Brood @ 60 Pts
Spinefists

Troops: Gaunt Brood (12#, 60 Pts)
12 Gaunt Brood @ 60 Pts
Spinefists

Elite: Warriors (4#, 160 Pts)
4 Warriors @ 160 Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Rending Claws (x1); Scything Talons (x1); Synapse Creature

Elite: Carnifex (1#, 112 Pts)
1 Carnifex @ 112 Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Rending Claws (x1); Twin-linked Devourer (x1)

Elite: Carnifex (1#, 112 Pts)
1 Carnifex @ 112 Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Rending Claws (x1); Twin-linked Devourer (x1)

Heavy Support: Carnifex (1#, 173 Pts)
1 Carnifex @ 173 Pts
Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Barbed Strangler; Venom Cannon

Heavy Support: Carnifex (1#, 182 Pts)
1 Carnifex @ 182 Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Toxic Miasma; Barbed Strangler; Twin-linked Devourer (x1)

Heavy Support: Carnifex (1#, 182 Pts)
1 Carnifex @ 182 Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Toxic Miasma; Barbed Strangler; Twin-linked Devourer (x1)

Troops: Hormagaunts (10#, 130 Pts)
10 Hormagaunts @ 130 Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Scything Talons

Total Roster Cost: 1749

or this one

i might cut a fex out not sure


HQ: Warriors (5#, 200 Pts)
5 Warriors @ 200 Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Rending Claws (x1); Scything Talons (x1); Synapse Creature

HQ: Warriors (4#, 160 Pts)
4 Warriors @ 160 Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Rending Claws (x1); Scything Talons (x1); Synapse Creature

Troops: Gaunt Brood (12#, 60 Pts)
12 Gaunt Brood @ 60 Pts
Spinefists

Troops: Gaunt Brood (12#, 60 Pts)
12 Gaunt Brood @ 60 Pts
Spinefists

Troops: Genestealers (11#, 275 Pts)
11 Genestealers @ 275 Pts
Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Rending Claws; Scything Talons

Troops: Gaunt Brood (12#, 60 Pts)
12 Gaunt Brood @ 60 Pts
Spinefists

Elite: Carnifex (1#, 113 Pts)
1 Carnifex @ 113 Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Toxic Miasma; Scything Talons (x2)

Elite: Warriors (4#, 160 Pts)
4 Warriors @ 160 Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Rending Claws (x1); Scything Talons (x1); Synapse Creature

Elite: Carnifex (1#, 113 Pts)
1 Carnifex @ 113 Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Toxic Miasma; Scything Talons (x2)

Heavy Support: Carnifex (1#, 173 Pts)
1 Carnifex @ 173 Pts
Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Barbed Strangler; Venom Cannon

Heavy Support: Carnifex (1#, 186 Pts)
1 Carnifex @ 186 Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Spine Banks; Toxic Miasma; Crushing Claws; Barbed Strangler

Heavy Support: Carnifex (1#, 186 Pts)
1 Carnifex @ 186 Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Spine Banks; Toxic Miasma; Crushing Claws; Barbed Strangler

Total Roster Cost: 1746

by the way sorry about the troop at the bottom i forgot to fix it

well the genestealers can be mean but i have sadly not fought much aganist nids but so to can the warriors and the brood lord that i fought killed all the troops it went aganist(and in all battles i have seen) along with its stealers it was a mean little guy(well it is smaller and warriors and carnifexs) so id pbly go with the 1st list its the one im more scard of

thanks man im just wandering if the carnies in the second list will work better so i might change the first list a little mainly the carnies but i have only played nids fully twice and i need to play test it more before the tounry

They can be mean but they are not always that effective when i fought them they did little to my blood angels(though the guy i fought used a ranged carnie) i have fought nids maybe 5 times total in a battle that was over 1000 points and a total of maybe 8 times including a few 500 point battles

IMO carnies should only ever be shooty... They are simply too easy to avoid otherwise

that is a good point

6" a turn just doesn't cut it, mixed Carines occasionally get a chance to eat things... But a regular shooty carnie is still a decent close combat force.