Can't decide - Orks 1750

I'm working on the third list of Orks at 1750, and thought I'd get some feedback. I'll point out what I'm trying to decide on... This is the first list:


Wazdakka Gutsmek

Nobz on Warbikes 7x
1x Painboy w/ Orderly
4x Big Choppas
2x Power Klaws
Cybork Bodies
'Eavy Armor
Bosspole
Waaagh! Banner

Warbikers 4x
1x Nob w/Power klaw

Nobz x10
Painboy w/Grot orderly
4x Twin Linked shootas
2x Power Klaws
2x Big Choppas
2x shoota rokkit launcha combis
2x Bosspoles
1x Waaagh! Banner
'eavy Armor

Boyz x30
1x nob w/power klaw
3x big shootas

Boyz x20
1x nob w/power klaw and boss pole
2x rokkit launchas
shootas instead of choppa and slugga

Boyz x20
1x nob w/power klaw
2x Big shootas

OR
Warboss on warbike
Cybork
'eavy armor
power klaw

Nobz on Warbikes 7x
1x Painboy w/ Orderly
4x Big Choppas
2x Power Klaws
Cybork Bodies
'Eavy Armor
Bosspole
Waaagh! Banner

Warboss
Power klaw
twin linked shoota
cybork

Nobz x10
Painboy w/Grot orderly
4x Twin Linked shootas
2x Power Klaws
2x Big Choppas
2x shoota rokkit launcha combis
2x Bosspoles
1x Waaagh! Banner
'eavy Armor
Trukk with Red paint job

Boyz x30
1x nob w/power klaw
3x big shootas

Boyz x20
1x nob w/power klaw and boss pole
2x rokkit launchas
shootas instead of choppa and slugga

Boyz x20
1x nob w/power klaw
2x Big shootas

I'd take the second list, myself, a nob mob without a truck is soon a dead one.

warboss on Warbike Big Choppa

Wazdakka

Nobz on bikes only take 1 Power klaw, and 1 Big Choppa keep the rest basic equip and 1 boss pole w painboy 6 strong and add warboss to it.

NEVER MAKE A BIKE SQAUD LESS THAN SIX, this is a magic number some how don't know why but trust me on this one. and of course 1 nob w Power klaw.

the second Nob unit drop all but 1 Power claw and no combi weapons or anything else but, Eavy armor Twin Shootas, maybe 1 big choppa. Take the points from that and add a battle wagon with Deff rolla and stick the 20 boyz in that!!! ard' case it, extra armour, and paint it red! stick a gun on if you have points otherwise don't worry about it!!! you shouldn't be shooting any way lol.

Fill with big mobs as you have!

See if you have room for snikrot...