Wood elves unbalanced?

Iwas just wandering, because when i mentioned to some of the people who have played fantasy for a while that i was considering starting wood elve, they gave my that "go die in a hole" look.

I dont know much about wood elves, but i wouldn't worry about the looks you get from people, i get that same look everytime when they find out my High Elves go first even if they charge. Every army has its pro's and con's its up to you to find out what those con's are and turn them into pro's. So basically don't let that look be the cause of not having a Wood Elf army. Happy Gaming

I don't think any of the fantasy armies are really that unbalanced. I believe wood elves used to be in an older edition. But I think they've corrected that now, so happy wood elf playing.

I been told they are one armie not to take lightly.I was also told they can shoot like nobodys buisness,from afar off.
I think I would also like to check this faction out for a second armie.They look great.

I would only raise a brow if a saw two Treemen set up across from me.

But that can be said for others (two Steam Tanks and WarAltar, etc)

High Elves are filthy right now.

Teclis
2x Lvl 2 mages-jewel of dusk, ring of corin, ring of fury
3x 10 Archers
10x swordmaster with banner of sorcery
5x shadow warriors
4x bolt throwers

Actually, Rob wanted to start a wood elf army with lots of dryads and stuff, if I remember correctly.

I'm not so sure anymore, i really like all of their core choices. Beyond that pure skirmishers seems too 40kish

Dryads are prolly the best point for point model in the game.

Whats the drawback?

I have fought Wood Elves with skaven and I saw nothing unbalanced about them(at 1000 points...well ok it was a 3 way battle and we only got through 2 turns but still)

Agreed. Things do get crazy when multiple Rares are involved (2000pts)

The downside of dryads is fire, although that only usually happens if you've geared a list against them, but then it hurts pretty bad.

The twi things that drew me to wood elves was the fluff and the fact that they have a bunch of nice looking models(also meaning they have a reasonable chance at getting painted). Right now my hope is to pick up the battalion box and do some experimenting in lower point games and see where to go from there.

500pt games shall see your WEs excel. Lower leadership (as only Hero characters allowed) will have the Fear working for you. Shooting is quite good at that point mark as well.

You'll do quite well

Yeah, I got stomped once in a 500 or 750 pt game against wood elves. He took two units of dryads and one block of archers. My poor skinks and saurus' didn't even see what hit them.

I herd the Archors wood elves are very danderous when they are lined up in max units.What other wood elve units are not to be rekoned with?
How can the dwarfs counter againts them?

Wood elves, like most elf units, can dish but cannot take. If you can get into close combat with most wood elf units dwarves will make short work of them. Dwarf heavy armor should also allow units to approach without taking too many casualties. Also beware the dryads. They are fear causing living trees with invulnerable saves. If have a flame cannon or make a cannon or stone thrower flame causing you can hurt them pretty bad, but they are nasty in combat.

JMarv wrote:

If you can get into close combat with most wood elf units dwarves will make short work of them.

Not as easy with M3/6 Dwarves vs Skirmishing M5/10 Dryads.

..but thats why you play the games

My goals right now are to stay put and wait for the enemy to come to me,as much as possble.
The woodelves are awesome looking and have been considering them as for a second army.
How many point does your Wood Elves have.?

There really is not a poor unit available to the WEs.

Wardancers are my personal fav.

should be interesting. I'm gonna try to have a small army together by the first of the year and see how things go.

Rob wrote:

Iwas just wandering, because when i mentioned to some of the people who have played fantasy for a while that i was considering starting wood elve, they gave my that "go die in a hole" look.

The Wood Elves needed an update. I'm in agreement about the upsides and downsides. They are not an easy army to fight and require many brain cells that die horribly as those Dryads just go where ever they are needed.

If anything is wrong with the book it is that other books need updating too. It is not as if GW can do them all at once, there has to be an order. With many books in many game systems there are often room for abuse so in the end it is the player of the Wood Elves that is more important than the fact it is a Wood Elf army.

I think a well build Dwarf Force can fight Wood Elves. Even the Treekin units.

That makes me feel better,cause I was told by a really good dwarf player as well,that those wood elves were a pain in the rump!

Sigma Golem wrote:

That makes me feel better,cause I was told by a really good dwarf player as well,that those wood elves were a pain in the rump!

Oh they can easily be a pain the rump. Those Dryads move at 10" in any direction they want and hit harder than other skirmishers. Part of anyone's strategy against Wood Elves is how they are going to take the Dryad charges or on the rare case get the charge on those woody freaks.

I played one game where this guy had four or more units of Dryads. Us normal have to think carefully about where we want to place our boys and how they will maneuver through the game. This guy evenly spaced out his units across his side of the table. With their excellent maneuverability they all made it to contact pretty much where he wanted them to go much to my suffering.

Wood Elves only start getting silly in a bad way when encountering too many of the bigger treekin.

What is a good counter for Dwarfs,when up againts a army of Woodys?

Sigma Golem wrote:

What is a good counter for Dwarfs,when up againts a army of Woodys?

Someone else already mentioned fire. You can also rubber stamp artillery to be magical. Which is a bad thing for leafy ward saves. Actually the guy who brought up fire was being very helpful because their is some kind of ubber annoying regenerative save that the big tree(s?) lose after being wounded by fire.

It has been awhile but I believe your rifles are at a disadvantage to the elf long bow in range. So consider artillery with good block troops for protection. Dryads can control a charge but if the defending unit pulls an oath stone on them then they can be stuck in a quagmire. A hero with a magical weapon in a resolute unit will scythe Dryads unless they have a plan for it, which I have forgotten that specific trick (but it ain't pretty).

In theory small rifle units near the artillery might work. Have a block axe/sword & shield unit out in front. Elf archers can fire at the armored block unit while taking artillery hits. The rifles to one side and behind the block unit fire at Dryads to soften them or the elf archers if the woodies try to shoot your artillery (the idea being if they want to shoot your artillery they will have to get in range of your rifles). If Dryads move towards the rifleman widdle them with shooting and discourage with the block infantry unit. Although herding Dryads is rediculously hard. It might work.

Don't take everything I say too seriously. Haven't played in awhile so this is at least a year old stuff. The basics should be solid, the game couldn't have changed that much in the mean-time.